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    Default Map of European Peoples - 2000 AD

    The earliest and also easiest map I've made, follows exact ethnic borders (no approximations on natural regions yet).
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    Hard to say if it is exact. For example : Eastern Estonia may be Russian infested but that does not mean there arent any Estonians there, there are plenty.

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    Hah... FYROMians as Bulgarians on that map... yeah, that'll sit well with them LOL.

    Also LOL at Yugoslavian


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    Simple maps are for the simple-minded.
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    The Sami are not Finnic, nor are the Irish British.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forget Me Not View Post
    Hah... FYROMians as Bulgarians on that map... yeah, that'll sit well with them LOL.

    Also LOL at Yugoslavian
    Ethnicity is not about feelings, remember? An ethnic group is a scientific clustering of humans based on a combination of linguistic AND cultural AND racial bonds.

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    You forgot the Saami


    though they are not really a majority anywhere expect in some parts of Finnmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talvi View Post
    Hard to say if it is exact.
    I've compiled this map based on a COMBINATION of ethnic maps I've found. Here is the methodology behind the clusterings:
    - if groups speak same languages or languages part of a continuum, then they are one ethnic group. Exception to that rule are Bulgarians, who ARE connected to Yugoslavs by a continuum, but the racial-cultural differences (other aspects of an ethnicity) are evident, enough to have them split.
    - if more than 50% ethnics speak another language in their homeland, that people is considered assimilated and doesn't appear on the map (ex. Basques, Irish, Welsh, Bretons, Lapps).

    Yet, my views have somewhat changed in the clusterings I've provided:
    - Iberians should have been split into Iberians and Occitans (Catalans being an Occitan group). Differences between the two are enough to have them splitted.
    - Lithuanian and Latvian should have been split.
    - Romanian and Aromanian should have been split.
    - French should have been split into French and Occitans. The problem is that both used to be connected by a narrow continuum in Central France.
    - Insular and Continental Scandinavians can be split on linguistic grounds, but cultural and racial unity leans heavily towards unity.
    - what "Italians" means exactly is a matter of debate. Italian "dialects" are languages in their own right, connected by no continuum. Theoretically, they should have been split into Lombards, Piedmontese, Venetans, Emilians and so on. I've clustered them together because of strong cultural and racial bonds (in the sense that Italians, as a group, have their own looks).

    This entire map is driven by a desire to bring unity and consistency into the subject. This is its great strength, compared to other maps provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallantides View Post
    You forgot the Saami


    though they are not really a majority anywhere expect in some parts of Finnmark.
    I don't forget anything. It was two reasons why I excluded Lapps in my map:
    1. they are not a majority in Lappland
    2. people of Lapp origin speak mostly non-Lapp languages

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