Eye color map of France (1940)

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

In Dalmatia light eyes aren't very common. Maybe because it was settled by Morlachs. There are only two studies for that country and both are very old.

That's not true. If anything sets Croatia apart from it's southeastern neighbours is that light eyes are common as fuck even in darkest regions. Dalmatia can't be below 35% and in some places it's probably more.
It's really hard to find group photos of Croats where light eyes aren't at least huge minority. Fair hair is much rarer down south, though.

In Croatian World Cup squad 4 out of 9 ethnic Dalmatian players who are fully Croat had blue eyes.

[Supercomputer]

That's not true. If anything sets Croatia apart from it's southeastern neighbours is that light eyes are common as fuck even in darkest regions. Dalmatia can't be below 35% and in some places it's probably more.
It's really hard to find group photos of Croats where light eyes aren't at least huge minority. Fair hair is much rarer down south, though.

In Croatian World Cup squad 4 out of 9 ethnic Dalmatian players who are fully Croat had blue eyes.

Depends by what you mean by light eyes. I generally don't come to conclusions based of a few samples and athletes. A study from late 19th century found 37% for Dalmatia incl. yellowish gray. It's definitely darker than pannonian Croatia thought.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Depends by what you mean by light eyes. I generally don't come to conclusions based of a few samples and athletes. A study from late 19th century found 37% for Dalmatia incl. yellowish gray. It's definitely darker than pannonian Croatia thought.

Sure. They are darker. But if you compare with south of France I don't think they are. I was suprised how genetically northern plotting most of Dalmatians are. Check this out (green samples are from Dalmatia)


I think genetics and pigmentation correlate pretty well. In Croatia there is much more light eyes than light hair.
Keep in mind if studies you have are old they probably included Dalmatian Serbs and Italians in statistics, who made large part of Dalmatian population until relatively recently.

[Supercomputer]

Sure. They are darker. But if you compare with south of France I don't think they are. I was suprised how genetically northern plotting most of Dalmatians are. Check this out (green samples are from Dalmatia)


I think genetics and pigmentation correlate pretty well. In Croatia there is much more light eyes than light hair.
Keep in mind if studies you have are old they probably included Dalmatian Serbs and Italians in statistics, who made large part of Dalmatian population until relatively recently.

Yes, its darker than mediterranean coast of France which is very low (as low as 18% in few departments)... I suspect it was influenced by North African barbarians. The study of Croatian coast includes Serbs and Montenegrins but excludes Italians. I can send you the table if you like.

[Supercomputer]

Yes but if it was included, many southern regions like Béarn would be way highter. I would say, if we include greenish eyes, 50% of béarneses are light eyed.

Actually it's best I release all the data. French speakers here can check the departments by themselves. (I don't know them by name without Google).

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fmga273c/

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Yes, its darker than mediterranean coast of France which is very low (as low as 18% in few departments)... I suspect it was influenced by North African barbarians. The study of Croatian coast includes Serbs and Montenegrins but excludes Italians.

Study that includes Serbs and Montenegrins (both darker than Croats with Montenegrins being much darker) is worthless.
18% is extremely dark, no part of Croatia is dark like that. But I find it hard to believe, probably they counted some Arabs in France under ''ethnic French'' lol.
Maghrebis live in places like Marseille for long, how do you know they weren't counted ?

[Supercomputer]

Study that includes Serbs and Montenegrins (both darker than Croats with Montenegrins being much darker) is worthless.
18% is extremely dark, no part of Croatia is dark like that. But I find it hard to believe, probably they counted some Arabs in France under ''ethnic French'' lol.
Maghrebis live in places like Marseille for long, how do you know they weren't counted ?

It's not entirely worthless because Montenegrins are distinguishable in the study because it show subregions (montenegrins are only in Kotor). Serbs on the other hand are comparable to Dalmatians generally in pigmentation. IDK if this France study included only ethnic Frenchmen I suppose there were already Arabs living in Marseilles in 1940. If not the it's an admixture going back hundreds of years.

[Visage pâle]

Actually it's best I release all the data. French speakers here can check the departments by themselves. (I don't know them by name without Google).

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fmga273c/

Great i know this source.

[Maks Luburic]

Peaks in Brittany. British-Celtic influence?

Yepp. A lot of Wikings setteled there, just like in Sicily.

[Visage pâle]

Bretons came from Britain after fall of Rome.