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    Default Pigmentation of Finns

    These are the only studies I was able to find. Are there any other?

    Comparison between Finns and Finnish Swedes:



    Text in English (Compares Finns to Swedes and Estonians with hair and eye percentages):










    Another study in German
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/2953461...n_tab_contents

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    Eye colour of 854 Finns in Norrbotten (northern Sweden) were:

    Light 52,4%
    Mixed 32,7%
    Brown 14,4%

    Swedes from Norrbotten and Skaraborg in southern Sweden:

    Light 89,6%
    Mixed 5,1%
    Brown 5,2%

    Saamis:

    Light 11,0%
    Mixed 53,5%
    Brown 35,5%

    Probably some bias in those stats (about the Swedes and Saamis particularly), but whatever. I can't prove that at the moment.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1923.tb02951.x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    Eye colour of 854 Finns in Norrbotten (northern Sweden) were:

    Light 52,4%
    Mixed 32,7%
    Brown 14,4%

    Swedes from Norrbotten and Skaraborg in southern Sweden:

    Light 89,6%
    Mixed 5,1%
    Brown 5,2%

    Saamis:

    Light 11,0%
    Mixed 53,5%
    Brown 35,5%

    Probably some bias in those stats (about the Swedes and Saamis particularly), but whatever. I can't prove that at the moment.

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...1923.tb02951.x
    This seems to be poorly synchronized. Only blue in the light category for Finns and hazel under brown. For Swedes it's all light under light and only pure brown under brown.

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    Finns from Savolax in eastern Finland were on average 85-88% light-eyed. Interestingly, the dolicocephals were less so. Hair colour averaged 40% dark blond, 30% brown and 20% dark brown/black. Here, the dolicocephals were blonder than the rest. German data.

    https://finnanthro.blogspot.com/2007...f-haireye.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    Finns from Savolax in eastern Finland were on average 85-88% light-eyed. Interestingly, the dolicocephals were less so. Hair colour averaged 40% dark blond, 30% brown and 20% dark brown/black. Here, the dolicocephals were blonder than the rest. German data.

    https://finnanthro.blogspot.com/2007...f-haireye.html
    Only people with prominent brown eyes have been from Savo. This is only my observation. As to the hair color, it is on average in Finland darker than anthrotards expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Only people with prominent brown eyes have been from Savo. This is only my observation. As to the hair color, it is on average in Finland darker than anthrotards expect.

    https://www.unz.com/print/MankindQua...-1974apr-00209

    Science by the physician K. A. Haartman on the anthropological
    tribal types of Finland. It was the same year that Anders Retzius
    gave his fundamental lecture on the cranial shape of the Northern
    people before the Swedish Academy of Science. (There is obviously
    a direct historical connection with Haartman's lecture; however,
    nothing further is known about it.) Beginning with the then very
    eagerly pursued study of Finnish tribes (we must remember that
    this was the age of awakening nationalism), Dr Haartman
    sketches a very simple picture of the Finns. However, Haartman
    likens the Karelians to "desert Bedouins" (!)
    , with brown hair,
    blue eyes (!), long and high-vaulted crania, narrow faces, and
    straight, narrow noses. The Tavasts were completely blond, with
    turned-up noses, broad and low-vaulted crania, and also a shorter
    and broader build than the Karelians. The Savolaxians were
    viewed as a mixed race of Karelians and Tavasts. Although this
    assumption was wrong, it continued to serve as a basis for Finnish
    tribal typology until the end of the nineteenth century. It was even
    elevated to a sort of canon in the works of Gustaf Retzius (son
    of A. Retzius) following his travels in Finland in the 1870s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    https://www.unz.com/print/MankindQua...-1974apr-00209

    Science by the physician K. A. Haartman on the anthropological
    tribal types of Finland. It was the same year that Anders Retzius
    gave his fundamental lecture on the cranial shape of the Northern
    people before the Swedish Academy of Science. (There is obviously
    a direct historical connection with Haartman's lecture; however,
    nothing further is known about it.) Beginning with the then very
    eagerly pursued study of Finnish tribes (we must remember that
    this was the age of awakening nationalism), Dr Haartman
    sketches a very simple picture of the Finns. However, Haartman
    likens the Karelians to "desert Bedouins" (!)
    , with brown hair,
    blue eyes (!), long and high-vaulted crania, narrow faces, and
    straight, narrow noses. The Tavasts were completely blond, with
    turned-up noses, broad and low-vaulted crania, and also a shorter
    and broader build than the Karelians. The Savolaxians were
    viewed as a mixed race of Karelians and Tavasts. Although this
    assumption was wrong, it continued to serve as a basis for Finnish
    tribal typology until the end of the nineteenth century. It was even
    elevated to a sort of canon in the works of Gustaf Retzius (son
    of A. Retzius) following his travels in Finland in the 1870s.
    Actually Savolaxians ARE mixed Karelians and Tavastians. All other observations are wrong. In the linguistics we know that the Savolaxian dialect derives from the Karelian language. We also know that hundreds Savolaxian surnames came from Karelia, but also their own exist. But then their genes are somewhere between other Finns and Karelians, after taking into account that they seem to be their own group due to the genetic drift from the East Finnish expanasion.

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