Haplogroups of my 23andme Greek matches.

[xripkan]

I wrote down the haplogroups of my Greek relatives at 23andme. Some of them go deeper to a specific subclade while other are more general.
The total of the results I wrote down is 99 so it is easy to see the percentages in a random sample. All of my relatives are uknown to me and the closest prediction is 3rd cousin. So I have no close matches. I was just looking for males whose paternal grandparent is Greek.

The most populous haplogroup is E-V13 with 23 out of 99. Some of these results go deeper to E-M34 subclade but most were just E-V13. It makes sense since this is the most populous haplogroup in Greece.

Then it is haplogroup I2 with 19 out of 99. Most of the results (15) are I-M423 which is dinaric. There were also non-dinaric subclades like I-M223 and I-CTS595.

There were 15 of 99 for J2 haplogroup of various subclades. What impressed me was an individual of Vlach origin who wrote that he had an ancestor who was a soldier at the fifth roman legion 2000 years ago and his surname was relative to this fact. His haplogroup was J-M241 which is Illyrian.

14 individuals had R1a. There were 7 results under Z280 which are Slavic, 5 results more general R-M417 and 2 results under R-Z93, 1 R-F2935 like mine and 1 R-F1345 whose direct subclade is R-F2935. I was a little surprised to find relatives(they were very distant) with different surnames from mine with same haplogroup since it is considered very rare in Greece and Balkans in general.

R1b is next with 13 results, 4 from western branches (R-U152) and other more general like R-M269.

There were 5 results for haplogroup G2a (neolithic farmers) and 5 for J1(semetic according to eupedia).

I also found 3 results for haplogroup H which is connected with Balkan Romani (Gypsy), 2 results for haplogroup T and 1 result for haplogroup L which is south asian.

Do you think this sample is representative of the distribution of greek haplogroups?

[xripkan]

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[CommonSense]

Bunch of Albanians and Slavs

[xripkan]

Bunch of Albanians and Slavs

Which are the albanians according to you?

[xripkan]

In general there were more I2 than I expected.

[CommonSense]

Which are the albanians according to you?

A part of the E-V13 and J2 is likely of Albanian origin, though I'm not very knowledgable about which subclades are specifically Albanian. It's also striking that 1/3 of your matches have Slavic Y-DNA! That's higher than what I guessed when I clicked on the thread for the first time.
Also, the number of people with Gypsy haplogroups is higher than I expected too. Are they actual Gypsies, or just Greeks with an assimilated ancestor?

[IncelSlayer]

What impressed me was an individual of Vlach origin who wrote that he had an ancestor who was a soldier at the fifth roman legion 2000 years ago and his surname was relative to this fact.

Its just bullshit, I've heard this story from plenty of aromanians.

[Ayetooey]

What was the Vlach's Y dna?

EV-13 is just a Balkanite dna, it's found all over and certainly not Albanian specific; only a few specific clades are linked to tribes. That I2a is slavic tho, aside from the non-dinaric ones. I2a2 can be paleo-balkanite.

[xripkan]

A part of the E-V13 and J2 is likely of Albanian origin, though I'm not very knowledgable about which subclades are specifically Albanian. It's also striking that 1/3 of your matches have Slavic Y-DNA! That's higher than what I guessed when I clicked on the thread for the first time.
Also, the number of people with Gypsy haplogroups is higher than I expected too. Are they actual Gypsies, or just Greeks with an assimilated ancestor?

I expected less I2 and more non-western R1b. 4 out of 13 R1b belonged to western subclades. The people with haplogoup H had no south Asia results so they must have an assimilated ancestor. I found strange that 2 of my relatives belonged to Z93 subclades. If I add my y dna to the sample it is 3 out of 100 results which belong to the same R-Z93 subclade. Maybe there is a Greek/Balkan branch of R-Z93 which is not discovered yet.

[xripkan]

What was the Vlach's Y dna?

EV-13 is just a Balkanite dna, it's found all over and certainly not Albanian specific; only a few specific clades are linked to tribes. That I2a is slavic tho, aside from the non-dinaric ones. I2a2 can be paleo-balkanite.

Vlach's haplogroup is J-M241 which is Illyrian so his ancestors were latinized paleobalkanites. The problem is that for many results it doesn't go deeper to a specific subclade. E-V13 goes deeper only in two cases to the subclade E-M34 which is considered Greek.