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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, pure Ashkenazi Jews are like 6-7% Red Sea or so. If he is only 1/4, the minor Red Sea percentage could have been sucked into the East Med which is a similar thing anyway. However I can't be sure.
    Me: 8.39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Wrong, Prussian Jews plot close to Sicilians (like the rest of Ashkenazim). I know because I found some Prussian Jewish kits.
    Eastern or Western Prussian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Eastern or Western Prussian?
    Neither - from Provinz Posen.

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    Jews in Prussian Poland ca. 1825:

    https://play.google.com/books/reader..._GB&pg=GBS.PP1



    And here is the data from 1817:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-in-the-1800s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Neither - from Provinz Posen.

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    Jews in Prussian Poland ca. 1825:

    https://play.google.com/books/reader..._GB&pg=GBS.PP1



    And here is the data from 1817:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-in-the-1800s
    I don't see the kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    Family of Russian and Jewish descent:
    http://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=3234.5;imode




    1. Father kit# F205199 (Ashkenazi Jew, Ukraine/Poland)
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    2. Mother kit# F216277 (Russian, from Voronezh (maternal line) and Yaroslavl (paternal line))
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    3. Their son kit# F196332 (50% Jewish, 50% Russian)
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    4. Their son's wife kit# M101426 (Russian, from Voronezh (paternal line))
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    5. Their son's son kit# M205613 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)
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    6. Their son's daughter kit# M101814 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)
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    7. Their son's nephew kit# F205198
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    on gedmatch genesis:

    Father: Kit T325526
    Mother: Kit T306392
    Son: Kit T472886
    Son's wife: Kit M101426
    Grandson: Kit M205613
    Granddaughter: Kit M101814

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    on gedmatch genesis:

    Father: Kit T325526
    Mother: Kit T306392
    Son: Kit T472886
    Son's wife: Kit M101426
    Grandson: Kit M205613
    Granddaughter: Kit M101814
    The mother is a pretty pure Slavic Russian, I'll add her to my personal collection

    Kit T306392

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 48.77
    2 North_Atlantic 25.96
    3 West_Med 8.42
    4 West_Asian 5.99
    5 Siberian 3.93
    6 East_Med 3.1
    7 Amerindian 1.19
    8 Red_Sea 1
    9 Northeast_African 0.74
    10 Oceanian 0.7
    11 East_Asian 0.18

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_Russian 3.83
    2 Estonian_Polish 4.02
    3 Russian_Smolensk 4.18
    4 Kargopol_Russian 4.24
    5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.87
    6 Belorussian 5.04
    7 Erzya 6.37
    8 Polish 6.53
    9 Lithuanian 6.76
    10 Ukrainian 6.99
    11 Estonian 7.58
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.94
    13 East_Finnish 8.72
    14 South_Polish 8.84
    15 Finnish 9.37
    16 Southwest_Finnish 12.6
    17 Croatian 14.31
    18 Moldavian 16.66
    19 Hungarian 17.98
    20 La_Brana-1 18.71

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 50.6% Erzya + 49.4% Polish @ 1.73
    2 50.5% Russian_Smolensk + 49.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.01
    3 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% Erzya @ 2.04
    4 63.7% Estonian_Polish + 36.3% Erzya @ 2.1
    5 85.4% Russian_Smolensk + 14.6% Chuvash @ 2.12
    6 88.5% Russian_Smolensk + 11.5% Mari @ 2.19
    7 51.8% Estonian_Polish + 48.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.2
    8 86.2% Estonian_Polish + 13.8% Chuvash @ 2.22
    9 53.7% Southwest_Russian + 46.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.25
    10 94.9% Russian_Smolensk + 5.1% Selkup @ 2.34
    11 57% Belorussian + 43% Erzya @ 2.36
    12 55.9% Kargopol_Russian + 44.1% Belorussian @ 2.36
    13 95% Russian_Smolensk + 5% Ket @ 2.44
    14 54.9% Kargopol_Russian + 45.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.45
    15 89.7% Estonian_Polish + 10.3% Mari @ 2.52
    16 75.6% Lithuanian + 24.4% Tatar @ 2.55
    17 74.7% Southwest_Russian + 25.3% East_Finnish @ 2.6
    18 64.1% Kargopol_Russian + 35.9% Polish @ 2.61
    19 95.6% Estonian_Polish + 4.4% Selkup @ 2.71
    20 96.4% Russian_Smolensk + 3.6% Dolgan @ 2.72


    EUtest Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 31.24
    2 EAST_EURO 27.48
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.98
    4 ATLANTIC 10.7
    5 WEST_MED 4.79
    6 WEST_ASIAN 3.96
    7 SIBERIAN 2.29
    8 EAST_MED 0.95
    9 SOUTH_ASIAN 0.74
    10 MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.71
    11 EAST_AFRICAN 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Northwest_Russian 4.81
    2 Ukrainian-Russian 4.87
    3 West_Russian 5.29
    4 Belorussian 5.33
    5 UA 7.32
    6 North_Russian 7.59
    7 East_Russian 7.66
    8 EE 7.85
    9 LIT 8.32
    10 PL 8.33
    11 Erzya 9.44
    12 East_Finnish 10.81
    13 South_Finnish 12.77
    14 HU 18.42
    15 Udmurt 19
    16 Komi 19.17
    17 North_Swedish 19.92
    18 AT 22.15
    19 Serbian 23.13
    20 South_&_Central_Swedish 23.5

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.7% Northwest_Russian + 36.3% East_Russian @ 2.44
    2 52.3% East_Russian + 47.7% LIT @ 2.6
    3 82.7% Northwest_Russian + 17.3% Komi @ 2.7
    4 66.5% Belorussian + 33.5% Erzya @ 2.78
    5 70% Northwest_Russian + 30% Erzya @ 2.87
    6 61.1% Belorussian + 38.9% North_Russian @ 2.94
    7 64.9% Northwest_Russian + 35.1% North_Russian @ 2.98
    8 61.8% Belorussian + 38.2% East_Russian @ 3.09
    9 83.8% Northwest_Russian + 16.2% Udmurt @ 3.14
    10 81.8% Belorussian + 18.2% Komi @ 3.29
    11 52.8% North_Russian + 47.2% LIT @ 3.31
    12 53.7% LIT + 46.3% Erzya @ 3.43
    13 82.1% Belorussian + 17.9% Udmurt @ 3.43
    14 75.6% Northwest_Russian + 24.4% East_Finnish @ 3.48
    15 66.9% Ukrainian-Russian + 33.1% North_Russian @ 3.58
    16 50.8% Northwest_Russian + 49.2% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.66
    17 95.8% Northwest_Russian + 4.2% Selkup @ 3.67
    18 51.2% UA + 48.8% North_Russian @ 3.73
    19 94.8% Northwest_Russian + 5.2% Kalash @ 3.82
    20 95.2% Northwest_Russian + 4.8% KZ @ 3.9


    Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 59.56
    2 Atlantic_Med 18.92
    3 Caucasus 11.67
    4 Siberian 3.49
    5 Gedrosia 3.12
    6 Southwest_Asian 1.51
    7 East_Asian 1.19
    8 South_Asian 0.52

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 5.98
    2 Polish (Dodecad) 6
    3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 6.86
    4 Russian (Dodecad) 7.87
    5 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 8.96
    6 Russian_B (Behar) 9.22
    7 Belorussian (Behar) 9.41
    8 Russian (HGDP) 9.61
    9 Hungarians (Behar) 13.79
    10 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 14.69
    11 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 17.03
    12 Swedish (Dodecad) 17.08
    13 German (Dodecad) 17.72
    14 Lithuanians (Behar) 17.86
    15 Finnish (Dodecad) 18.59
    16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.28
    17 Chuvashs (Behar) 22.27
    18 Dutch (Dodecad) 24.7
    19 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24.87
    20 Romanians (Behar) 27.29

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 86.5% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 1.41
    2 85.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.52
    3 85.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.53
    4 86.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 1.57
    5 85.8% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.58
    6 86.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 1.6
    7 85% Russian (Dodecad) + 15% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.62
    8 85.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.62
    9 86.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
    10 85.9% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 1.68
    11 85.7% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.3% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.68
    12 85.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.71
    13 86.5% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 1.72
    14 86.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.77
    15 81% Russian (Dodecad) + 19% French (HGDP) @ 1.94
    16 90.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 9.4% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.99
    17 86.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.04
    18 59.2% Russian (HGDP) + 40.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.06
    19 85.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.13
    20 84.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 15.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.15

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