DNA results of Hungarian forum members

[Universe]

How old?

It's a hungarian surname that my patrlineal ancestors carried for many generations. They already had that surname in 1700s according to documents, but in reality for longer probably. Why does that matter?

[Rethel]

It's a hungarian surname that my patrlineal ancestors carried for many generations. They already had that surname in 1700s according to documents, but in reality for longer probably.

So, why are you so unsecure?

Why does that matter?

You tell me.

[Universe]

So, why are you so unsecure

I am not.
If i were you I'd hesitate to give me thumb-up btw, we haven't made peace yet.

[Rethel]

I am not.

So stop to behave like one.

If i were you I'd hesitate to give me thumb-up btw, we haven't made peace yet.

I am not giving thumbs, accoriding to who is disagreeing with me about some stuff or not, like you probably do.

[Blondie]

Everybody born in Historic Hungary was a Hungarian national, since they were born in Hungary. Ethnically they could have been Slovaks, Germans, Jewish, Hungarian, Romanian, Gypsy or mixed, but their nationality is Hungarian in every case. The same applies today: anybody born in Hungary is a Hungarian national, they have Hungarian citizenship, even if their parents, grandparents and so on may have various ethnic roots. Ethnicity and nationality don't always correlate fully. For example in France they don't even consider ethnicity, only nationality counts, while in the United States they consider race. Every country has different approach to this. In Hungary traditionally everybody was considered Hungarian, based on the French national model, ethnicity was being counted separately much later in censuses.

Do you know that most danube swabians have german citizenship too not only hungarian? I would not say that local germans have hungarian identity in general, rather dual identity. This is also true for hungarian jews who also have other citizenship (israeli) along with hungarian.

[Blondie]

About this hungarian-slovak thing, what is the difference? Hungarians and slovaks have same genetic, same national symbols, same history in the last 1000 years, same kings, same looking, same culture, the only difference is the spoked language. Most of hungarians consider them as "evil" little brother and i have seen many slovak who considered hungarians "evil" big brother.

[Satem]

About this hungarian-slovak thing, what is the difference? Hungarians and slovaks have same genetic, same national symbols, same history in the last 1000 years, same kings, same looking, same culture, the only difference is the spoked language. Most of hungarians consider them as "evil" little brother and i have seen many slovak who considered hungarians "evil" big brother.

Bruh, hungarians doesn't have as strong connection to herding and everything connected to that cheese, costumes. Hockey in Slovakia is a big deal whereas Hungarians are not really into that eve if the Hungarian team is decent(and yes it's a part of culture but not the form that comes first to our minds). These are just the first things that come to my mind, but I guess Slovak members(if here are some) would be able to state another differences.
I don't deny the fact that Slovakia for centuries was sharing history with Hungary hence genetics is similar but calling Slovaks "Hungarians speaking Slavic language" is simply an overstatement.

[Blondie]

Bruh, hungarians doesn't have as strong connection to herding and everything connected to that cheese, costumes. Hockey in Slovakia is a big deal whereas Hungarians are not really into that eve if the Hungarian team is decent(and yes it's a part of culture but not the form that comes first to our minds). These are just the first things that come to my mind, but I guess Slovak members(if here are some) would be able to state another differences.
I don't deny the fact that Slovakia for centuries was sharing history with Hungary hence genetics is similar but calling Slovaks "Hungarians speaking Slavic language" is simply an overstatement.

I didn't say that, of course slovaks are not hungarians with slavic language.

[oszkar07]

Bruh, hungarians doesn't have as strong connection to herding and everything connected to that cheese, costumes. Hockey in Slovakia is a big deal whereas Hungarians are not really into that eve if the Hungarian team is decent(and yes it's a part of culture but not the form that comes first to our minds). These are just the first things that come to my mind, but I guess Slovak members(if here are some) would be able to state another differences.
I don't deny the fact that Slovakia for centuries was sharing history with Hungary hence genetics is similar but calling Slovaks "Hungarians speaking Slavic language" is simply an overstatement.

Im no expert on the topic either but although there can be genetic similarities between Hungarians and Slovaks . Generally Slovaks are more North and Baltic/East slav shifted than Hungarians but possibly some Northern Hungarians can have a similiar type genetic shift.

From what I have seen the Slovak Folk Dancing and Music is closer to Hungarian in its movements and musical melodies than for example compared with South Slav Folk Dances/Folk Music. In terms of Folk dancing and folk music possibly Slovak is the closest to Hungarian{compared with all other neighbour nations) then I think in Transylvania region there is some similarities between Hungarian Szekely Folk dances and Romanian Transylvanian folk dance.
Slovaks lived as Hungarian citizens for hundreds of years so cultural and even some genetic overlapping is hardly suprising .

As for side conversations presented in this thread and another thread foolishly suggesting that Hungary isnt a real nation of its own , of its own identity ...the biggest BS ever ...Hungary is one of Europes oldest Kingdom's and it is also quite possible the Hungarian language and Magyar identity has been in the Carpathian basin even before 896Ad.

Hungarys unique identity,culture and language has been present in Europe for 1125 years at very least.
Only foolish people try to denigrate this , but this type of mentality can have connections to past anti Hungarian movements and other nations nationalist movements and expansionist interests.That some fools still can think this way in 2021, oh well.


Slovak Folk Dance


Hungarian Folk Dance

[Blondie]

@Satem Thanks for the reputation and no problem maybe i was also misleading a little bit Or course slovaks and hungarians are not same but different nation/etchnicity, i mean they have very special relationship, and they are very close to each other. Of course there are some cultural difference: hockey, kofola cola etc but i mean the behavior of peoples, or many hungarian would not think how many word is same in the slovak and hungarian language although these are both different language. Or the both country are successor state of the old Hungarian Kingdom, slovaks also can claim it's heritage, history, there are national symbols for example the double cross or the Three Hills etc what is same, so what i said that slovaks and hungarians are same only the language is different is a little bit exaggeration but i think there's a lot of truth in that.