DNA results of Hungarian forum members

**~~Dunai~~** · 10-01-2019, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by someonenotyou

Plus 23 and me gives me Baden-Württemberg as a place and the surname distribution for Elbert is:

So I'm guessing they came from around that area.

What is the difference between the Transylvanian Saxons and the Swabs? Didn’t the both come from Germany?

The difference is quite big. The Transylvanian Saxons are the much older German population of the Carpathian Basin, and they are the descendants of the first German settlers into Transylvania beginning with the 11th century, while the largest part have settled in the 13th-14th centuries. They weren't necessarily of Saxon origin, but from many places of Germany, only in Hungary they became known as Saxons. In the Reformation era all of them have left the Catholic Church and became Lutherans. Their homeland within Transylvania was in the Southern parts, just at the border with Wallachia. The Danube Swabians on the other hand came much later, beginning with the 18th century, when Southern Hungary was liberated from the Ottoman occupation, and the Habsburg official policy was to Germanize these low-populated lands. They came from mostly Catholic regions of Germany, because Habsburgs were strongly devoted to the Catholic Church, but not only from Swabia, but from all over West Germany and East France (German populated arias). They also got to be generally known as Danube Swabians in Hungary even if just like Transylvanian Saxons, they are not real Swabians. I also have Danube Swabian ancestry from a great-grandmother.

**Blondie** · 10-01-2019, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dunai

They also got to be generally known as Danube Swabians in Hungary even if just like Transylvanian Saxons, they are not real Swabians.

That's true, i'm danube swabian and i have 0% real swabian ancestry, only bavarian and austrian

**Benyzero** · 10-01-2019, 11:04 AM

I came to the conclusion that my grandma has to be swabian . They lived in germany after the war for few years, my grand grandpa was prisoned after, because he was a policeman in that time. She couldn't even go to school anymore, they didn't let her. It cant be just coincidence. Probably they didn't tell her of the origin of the family, because in that time she was born, having german roots was bad.

**blogen** · 10-01-2019, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Dunai

The Transylvanian Saxons are the much older German population of the Carpathian Basin, and they are the descendants of the first German settlers into Transylvania beginning with the 11th century, while the largest part have settled in the 13th-14th centuries.

No, they came after the Mongol invasion. The Mongols mostly exterminated the first settlers (Radna for example!), the second wave was the main basis of the Transsylvanian Saxon population.

**Mingle** · 10-01-2019, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by someonenotyou

What is the difference between the Transylvanian Saxons and the Swabs? Didn’t the both come from Germany?

Transylvania "Saxons" are mainly from the Rhineland, specifically Rhineland-Palantine (so not even Saxons at all), whereas Swabs are from Baden-Württemberg & Western Bavaria.

**Blondie** · 10-01-2019, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Transylvania "Saxons" are mainly from the Rhineland, specifically Rhineland-Palantine (so not even Saxons at all), whereas Swabs are from Baden-Württemberg & Western Bavaria.

Danube-Swabians came from catholic german areas so Baden-Württemberg, Bavaria, Austria, West Germany.

**Kökény** · 12-08-2019, 07:50 PM

Myheritage

Europe

Balkan
84.4%
English
3.9%
Scandinavian
2.3%
Greek and South Italian
5.0%
Ashkenazi Jewish
1.2%

Asia

Japanese and Korean
2.2%
Eskimo/Inuit
1.0%

yourDNAportal
Turkic admixture calculator

Population Percentage

Southeast European
25.30%
West Asian
16.74%
Southeast Asian
0.22%
Sub-Saharan African
0.49%
Northeast European
31.56%
Indian
4.13%
Northwest European
17.93%
Turkic
1.70%
Mongol
0.60%
Papuan
0.39%
Northeast Asian
0.94%

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.55
2 Caucasian 29.49
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.98
4 South_Central_Asian 5.03
5 Near_East 2.52
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.32
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.19
8 North_African 1.81
9 South_Indian 1.42
10 Austronesian 1.32
11 Arctic 1.17
12 Archaic_Human 0.59
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.35
14 Melano_Polynesian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 4.08
2 Slovenian ( ) 4.13
3 Hungarian ( ) 4.48
4 Czech ( ) 5.69
5 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.34
6 Austrian ( ) 6.67
7 Slovak ( ) 7.33
8 Serb_BH ( ) 7.65
9 Croat ( ) 7.75
10 Bosnian ( ) 7.85
11 Montenegrian ( ) 8.39
12 Croat_BH ( ) 8.85
13 Kashub ( ) 9.02
14 Ukrainian_West ( ) 9.41
15 German ( ) 10
16 Sorb ( ) 10.16
17 German_East ( ) 10.39
18 Italian_North ( ) 10.65
19 Bulgarian ( ) 10.7
20 German-Volga ( ) 11.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87% Austrian ( ) + 13% Circassian ( ) @ 2.41
2 79.8% Austrian ( ) + 20.2% Turk_Istanbul ( ) @ 2.63
3 88.4% Austrian ( ) + 11.6% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.64
4 69.4% North_German ( ) + 30.6% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.64
5 87.9% Austrian ( ) + 12.1% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.69
6 84.9% Austrian ( ) + 15.1% Cirkassian ( ) @ 2.69
7 76.5% Austrian ( ) + 23.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 2.73
8 87.8% Austrian ( ) + 12.2% Balkar ( ) @ 2.77
9 73.7% Austrian ( ) + 26.3% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 2.78
10 73.7% Austrian ( ) + 26.3% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 2.78
11 87.7% Austrian ( ) + 12.3% Adygei ( ) @ 2.79
12 86.8% Austrian ( ) + 13.2% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.8
13 81.3% Austrian ( ) + 18.7% Turk ( ) @ 2.82
14 65% Dane ( ) + 35% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.89
15 56.2% North_German ( ) + 43.8% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 2.9
16 90.8% Austrian ( ) + 9.2% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.92
17 82.2% Austrian ( ) + 17.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 2.92
18 90.9% Austrian ( ) + 9.1% Georgian ( ) @ 2.94
19 91.2% Austrian ( ) + 8.8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.94
20 91% Austrian ( ) + 9% Adjara ( ) @ 2.95

**Mingle** · 12-08-2019, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kökény

...

Can you post your Eurogenes K36 results?

**Pansarkamrat** · 12-08-2019, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Kökény

Myheritage

Europe

Balkan
84.4%
English
3.9%
Scandinavian
2.3%
Greek and South Italian
5.0%
Ashkenazi Jewish
1.2%

Asia

Japanese and Korean
2.2%
Eskimo/Inuit
1.0%

yourDNAportal
Turkic admixture calculator

Population Percentage

Southeast European
25.30%
West Asian
16.74%
Southeast Asian
0.22%
Sub-Saharan African
0.49%
Northeast European
31.56%
Indian
4.13%
Northwest European
17.93%
Turkic
1.70%
Mongol
0.60%
Papuan
0.39%
Northeast Asian
0.94%

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.55
2 Caucasian 29.49
3 European_Early_Farmers 18.98
4 South_Central_Asian 5.03
5 Near_East 2.52
6 Tungus-Altaic 2.32
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.19
8 North_African 1.81
9 South_Indian 1.42
10 Austronesian 1.32
11 Arctic 1.17
12 Archaic_Human 0.59
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.35
14 Melano_Polynesian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 4.08
2 Slovenian ( ) 4.13
3 Hungarian ( ) 4.48
4 Czech ( ) 5.69
5 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.34
6 Austrian ( ) 6.67
7 Slovak ( ) 7.33
8 Serb_BH ( ) 7.65
9 Croat ( ) 7.75
10 Bosnian ( ) 7.85
11 Montenegrian ( ) 8.39
12 Croat_BH ( ) 8.85
13 Kashub ( ) 9.02
14 Ukrainian_West ( ) 9.41
15 German ( ) 10
16 Sorb ( ) 10.16
17 German_East ( ) 10.39
18 Italian_North ( ) 10.65
19 Bulgarian ( ) 10.7
20 German-Volga ( ) 11.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87% Austrian ( ) + 13% Circassian ( ) @ 2.41
2 79.8% Austrian ( ) + 20.2% Turk_Istanbul ( ) @ 2.63
3 88.4% Austrian ( ) + 11.6% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.64
4 69.4% North_German ( ) + 30.6% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.64
5 87.9% Austrian ( ) + 12.1% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 2.69
6 84.9% Austrian ( ) + 15.1% Cirkassian ( ) @ 2.69
7 76.5% Austrian ( ) + 23.5% Turk_Aydin ( ) @ 2.73
8 87.8% Austrian ( ) + 12.2% Balkar ( ) @ 2.77
9 73.7% Austrian ( ) + 26.3% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 2.78
10 73.7% Austrian ( ) + 26.3% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 2.78
11 87.7% Austrian ( ) + 12.3% Adygei ( ) @ 2.79
12 86.8% Austrian ( ) + 13.2% Kabardin ( ) @ 2.8
13 81.3% Austrian ( ) + 18.7% Turk ( ) @ 2.82
14 65% Dane ( ) + 35% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 2.89
15 56.2% North_German ( ) + 43.8% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 2.9
16 90.8% Austrian ( ) + 9.2% Abkhasian ( ) @ 2.92
17 82.2% Austrian ( ) + 17.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 2.92
18 90.9% Austrian ( ) + 9.1% Georgian ( ) @ 2.94
19 91.2% Austrian ( ) + 8.8% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) @ 2.94
20 91% Austrian ( ) + 9% Adjara ( ) @ 2.95

Do you have any asian features? Or do you just score asian on DNA? Anyways intressting result

**Kökény** · 12-09-2019, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Pansarkamrat

Do you have any asian features? Or do you just score asian on DNA? Anyways intressting result

Yes I do! My eyes are slightly almond shaped.
They are deep in my face. I have high cheekbones and my face is kind of "bony".
Its a common feature for my people. I have seen a lot of people who looks way more asian than me. Until they didn't speak hungarian, I would have thought they are asians.
Usually every székely have this much asian dna. My mom also has it, but not this much. She doesn't look asian at all. However my father looks really turkic.
He has really small eyes. Hes tall, has black hair and kind of tan skin.
Both me and my sister got our eyes from him.