DNA results of Hungarian forum members

[Universe]

What?!
Is this the key to the problem of communication with you?
Hmmm... or maybe this is THE KEY.

First off, MyHeritage's algorithm to detect Ashenazi Jewish admixture is not reliable at all (unlike 23andme's). So I may or may not have some Jewish ancestry.
Secondly, I am not jewish in any meaningful way. I don't know about Jewish ancestry in my family tree and I don't know about any family member who was partially or fully Jewish. My views didn't change at all after the dna test, why should they?
Yes, I do have some Slovak ancestry and then what? All hungarians have slovak (or other type of Slavic) ancestry, so it doesn't make me special.

[Rethel]

why should they?

So tell finaly what are your real roots.

Yes, I do have some Slovak ancestry

You wrote, it is not from Slovakia.
How Slovak ancestry cannot be from Slovakia?

and then what?

Nothing.

All hungarians have slovak (or other type of Slavic) ancestry, so it doesn't make me special.

I am glad that finally you learn this fact.

[Universe]

So tell finaly what are your real roots.

I'm a hungarian person, that is enough for me. I don't need to invent y-dna identities to link myself to more successful populations.

You wrote, it is not from Slovakia.
How Slovak ancestry cannot be from Slovakia?

Not from Slovakia as in not directly from Slovakia, my Slovak ancestors moved away from Northern Hungary 300 years ago to Southern Hungary. Slovakia wasn't a country at the time. Slovaks in Hungary often don't even call themselves Slovak, but call themselves "Tót". These are irrelevant details that don't matter.

I am glad that finally you learn this fact.

Learned what? Don't celebrate yet, I am not making any "progress", especially in the direction of Rethelism (and that wouldn't be progress).
When did I deny Hungarians have Slavic admixture? Can link it?

[Rethel]

I don't need to invent y-dna identities

You don't have to invent, it is enough to say the truth.

to link

Saying the truth has no such goal as you imagine it has.

myself to more successful populations.

Why more succesfull? Could be less as well — it depneds where are you from.

Not from Slovakia as in not directly from Slovakia,

It is nonsense. Slovak ancestry is from Slovakia or Slovaks. Period.
If Mortimer would say, that his dravidian ancestry is not from India, it would be nonsensical as well.

my Slovak ancestors moved away from Northern Hungary 300 years ago to Southern Hungary. Slovakia wasn't a country at the time.

So from Slovakia. Stop enchant reality.

Slovaks in Hungary often don't even call themselves Slovak, but call themselves "Tót". These are irrelevant details that don't matter.

It means the same.

When did I deny Hungarians have Slavic admixture? Can link it?

You were buthurted about it. It's enough.

[Universe]

It is nonsense. Slovak ancestry is from Slovakia or Slovaks. Period.
If Mortimer would say, that his dravidian ancestry is not from India, it would be nonsensical as well.

Slovakia wasn't a country at the time though.
I said not from Slovakia because there are ethinc Slovak people living in Hungary. I meant my Slovak ancestors belonged to that group. So what's the problem?

You were buthurted about it. It's enough.

I wasn't.

[Rethel]

Slovakia wasn't a country at the time though.

So there was no Slovaks or what? What your point in mentioning this?

I said not from Slovakia because there are ethinc Slovak people living in Hungary.

Aren't they from Slovakia?

I meant my Slovak ancestors belonged to that group. So what's the problem?

That they were also from Slovakia and that you are ashamed of them.

[Universe]

So there was no Slovaks or what? What your point in mentioning this?

They were Slovaks and didn't live in Slovakia, that's what I'm saying. I mentioned it because Slovaks from Hungary have different identity than the ones from Slovakia, the ones from Hungary are quite hungarinized.

Aren't they from Slovakia?

White Americans originate from Europe, therefore they aren't Americans?
My ancestors were from (present day) Hungary for 300 years, and even before that they lived in Hungary.

That they were also from Slovakia and that you are ashamed of them.

How am I ashamed of them? If I was ashamed of my ancestry I'd simply say I don't have slovak ancestry. It doesn't matter if they are from Slovakia or not. They were slovaks and I wasn't denying that.

[Rethel]

They were Slovaks and didn't live in Slovakia, that's what I'm saying. I mentioned it because Slovaks from Hungary have different identity than the ones from Slovakia, the ones from Hungary are quite hungarinized.

Ok, I got it, but do you maybe want to say, that Slovaks from (modern) Hungary are not from territory of modern Slovakia since 1100 years?

White Americans originate from Europe, therefore they aren't Americans?

Yes they are, but noone would dare to suggest that they aren't from Europe. And btw, if you allready introduced this example, then take unto account, that being American doesn't cancel provenance. You can be an American, but one is of English, another of German, yet another of serbian aso provencances. But according to what you were trying to convinst me, they aren't nothing more than Native Indians... almost

My ancestors were from (present day) Hungary for 300 years, and even before that they lived in Hungary.

In this case, all Slovaks and half of Romanians are Hungarians
But at least we established some sort of truth about you.
300 years in Hungarian enviroment. It is something.

How am I ashamed of them?

You refused to say, who they were and where they were from.

It doesn't matter if they are from Slovakia or not. They were slovaks and I wasn't denying that.

I can't count how many times you was asked for that, and you didn't answer clearly or at all.

[Universe]

Ok, I got it, but do you maybe want to say, that Slovaks from (modern) Hungary are not from territory of modern Slovakia since 1100 years?

Nope.

Yes they are, but noone would dare to suggest that they aren't from Europe.

They still say they are White from America not "White from Europe"... like a Slovak from Hungary is Slovak from Hungary not Slovak from Slovakia.

And btw, if you allready introduced this example, then take unto account, that being American doesn't cancel provenance. You can be an American, but one is of English, another of German, yet another of serbian aso provencances. But according to what you were trying to convinst me, they aren't nothing more than Native Indians... almost

In this case, all Slovaks and half of Romanians are Hungarians

Nope. I didn't claim Slovaks from Hungary are Hungarians by ethnicity. I claimed they lived Hungary and yeah, many Romanians also lived in Hungary at the time.

You refused to say, who they were and where they were from.

It doesn't matter if they were from Hungary or directly from Slovakia. I didn't say Slovaks from Hungary aren't Slovaks.

[I can't count how many times you was asked for that, and you didn't answer clearly or at all.

I already said it without being asked 10 months ago, here is the original quote

I have some slovak ancestry (not from Slovakia).

That means I acknowledged I have Slovak ancestors. You were simply nitpicking.
If I had wanted to say I had no Slovak ancestry I would have said I don't have it.

[Rethel]

Nope.

Ok.

They still say they are White from America not "White from Europe"... like a Slovak from Hungary is Slovak from Hungary not Slovak from Slovakia.

But Americans are from europe anyway, like these Slovaks are from Slovakia also.
You was talking about the past, so you should be more specific.

The fact, that they are Americans doesn't make them Indians, neither strips them from their past.

Nope. I didn't claim Slovaks from Hungary are Hungarians by ethnicity. I claimed they lived Hungary and yeah, many Romanians also lived in Hungary at the time.
It doesn't matter if they were from Hungary or directly from Slovakia. I didn't say Slovaks from Hungary aren't Slovaks.

Let's leave it.

I already said it without being asked 10 months ago, here is the original quote

"Some slovak" means nothing. Mortimer has "some gypsy" and "some russian". And what?

That means I acknowledged I have Slovak ancestors. You were simply nitpicking.

No, you didn't. I was asking about primal ancestors, not about "some" ascendants.
And more than that, 10 months ago I wasn't here.