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    Default Polish historical regions - exact map

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    Yeah but historical regions were changed on daily basis due to ducal wars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galerius View Post
    Yeah but historical regions were changed on daily basis due to ducal wars
    In Poland such ducal wars were only between XII-XIV century.

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    ^^^
    Yes that map is very accurate.

    For comparison check my division along 1900 county borders below (with few exceptions, justified by good reasons, it looks the same):


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    I think that Ziemia Gnieźnieńska (Gniezno Land) should be its own thing though. Why did they make it a part of Ziemia Kaliska (Kalisz Land)?

    Pomorze Tylne (Farther Pomerania) can also be subdivided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I think that Ziemia Gnieźnieńska (Gniezno Land) should be its own thing though. Why did they make it a part of Ziemia Kaliska (Kalisz Land)?

    Pomorze Tylne (Farther Pomerania) can also be subdivided.
    Yes, Gniezno is not part of Kalisz area logically. Could be linked with Poznan simply.

    Pomosze Tyle - Ziema Kołobrzeska, Słupska and what's more?

    I'm suprsied that region north of Kluczbork is Lower Silesia, rather error?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    Ziema Kołobrzeska, Słupska and what's more?
    Słupsk-Sławno (you can also split it into two parts), Kołobrzeg-Koszalin (also can be split), Kamień, Szczecin.

    Here some links:

    http://www.s1354735-90700.home-whs.p...e_gdanskie.htm - this one shows Sławno (Schlawe) separately

    http://gryf.pomorze.pl/artykuly/Meklemburgia_jako.pdf

    http://koszalin7.pl/st/hist/historia_127.html

    http://www.szczecinek.org/herb_miasta.html

    And here a map:



    ^^^
    From that map:

    6. Słupsk-Sławno Land (also called Herzogtum Wenden / Duchy of Wends) coat of arms:



    5. Kołobrzeg-Koszalin Land (Herzogtum Kassuben / Duchy of Kashubs) coat of arms:
    (surprising that Duchy of Kashubs was located to the west - not east - of Duchy of Wends)



    4. Kamień Land (Herzogtum Pommern) coat of arms:



    3. Szczecin Land (Herzogtum Stettin) coat of arms:



    Uznam Land (Herrschaft Usedom) coat of arms:



    Old map from year 1654: http://koszalin7.pl/st/hist/historia_127.html



    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wappen...en_von_Pommern

    ^^^
    "Na mapie Pomorza z 1654 roku zaznaczono od lewej: Księstwo Pomorskie (Hertzogthum Pommern) z Kamieniem Pomorskim, Księstwo Kaszubskie (Hertzogthum Cassuben) z Koszalinem, Kołobrzegiem i Szczecinkiem oraz Księstwo Wendyjskie (Hertzogthum Weden) ze Sławnem i Słupskiem."

    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    I'm suprsied that region north of Kluczbork is Lower Silesia, rather error?
    That is north of Przesieka, so can be counted as Lower Silesia (but it was a mostly Polish-speaking area even as late as 1900):

    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przesi...5%9Al%C4%85ska

    http://www.skladnica-gornoslaska.pl/index.php?go=h1

    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A...C5%9Alaska.jpg

    http://region-dolny-slask.blogspot.c...go-slaska.html

    ^^^ From the comments in this last link: "Kluczbork należał w XVI w. do Księstwa Opolsko-Raciborskiego Jana II Dobrego, Księstwo Biskupie powstało na przesiece, widnieje na mapie Górnego Śląska z 1625. Dolnośląskość Kluczborka i Nysy nie jest wcale jednoznaczna i oczywista. Podobnie Kłodzko wchodziło w w skład Śląska wielokrotnie przed wojnami śląskimi, pierwszy raz w XIII w. za Henryka Probusa, więc uznawanie, że to absolutnie nie jest Śląsk, również jest naciągane. Uważam, że po 1818 ostatecznie ustalono granicę między Dolnym a Górnym Śląskiem, która wcześniej byłą płynna."

    Some maps:

    Spoiler!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Meredydd View Post
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    Some of those borders are still visble in autosomal results of autochtonous people from those areas..
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    Borders of Kashubia (western border is the same as western border of Pomorskie Voivodeship):

    Ethnic Kashubia = areas where Kashubians are between 100% and 30% of inhabitants
    Historical Kashubia = less than 30% today but used to live there in Early Modern Period

    Ethnic Kashubia = 7009 km2
    All of Kashubia = 11849 km2

    Source, "Atlas of Kashubians" by Jan Mordawski:

    http://static.scholaris.pl/resource_...perlaczami.pdf

    http://scholaris.pl/zasob/113621



    Map showing percent of Kashubians by county & gmina:



    Check also another version of this map, in this thread:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5140042

    http://docplayer.pl/57273906-Instytu...-tom-xvii.html


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