Southern Albania

[Voskos]

Oh man, here we go again. Wherever you dig in north epirus, you albos find greek inscriptions. Whenever you test local albos you get very high I2/R1a which are slavoromanian etc. No need to explain further...

[Voskos]

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[Skerdilaid]

Gedmatch calcs are not to be taken seriously, guys.


What differentiates Tosks from Ghegs, paternally speaking, is their higher Slavic and Germanic influence. Greek influence among Tosks is insignificant, barely visible (maybe not even 1%). But then again one needs to define what Greek influence represents, I guess. The ones that we have tested thus far from southern Albania seem be predominately I2-CTS10228/R1a, Greek speaking Bulgarians in other words.

[Voskos]

Skerdilaid, the medieval region of North Epirus was inhabited by hellenized Bayunites (wajunici) , a slavic tribe that settled the region and later got hellenized. How do we know these tested Greeks are not their descendants?

[Voskos]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiounitai

[Coolguy1]

Tosks show significantly more R1a/I2a and J2a when compared to Ghegs

[JQP4545]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiounitai

Wikipedia isn't a credible source How do we know the I2a and R1a isn't local? The branches of Yamnaya that settled the Balkans originated around the Carpathians as well so maybe these haplogroups were brought with them. Additionally we don't have many samples of hunter gatherers from the Balkans and the ones that we do have are of a poor quality.

[Skerdilaid]

Skerdilaid, the medieval region of North Epirus was inhabited by hellenized Bayunites (wajunici) , a slavic tribe that settled the region and later got hellenized. How do we know these tested Greeks are not their descendants?

How does that make it Greek influence then? That’s still part of the Slavic influence I mentioned, either way.

[Skerdilaid]

Wikipedia isn't a credible source How do we know the I2a and R1a isn't local? The branches of Yamnaya that settled the Balkans originated around the Carpathians as well so maybe these haplogroups were brought with them. Additionally we don't have many samples of hunter gatherers from the Balkans and the ones that we do have are of a poor quality.

[Voskos]

My dear friend Skerdilaidas, if these slavs identified as Greeks prior to the arrival of Albanians then it simply proves that this land was until then inhabited by Greek-affiliated people. Concerning the issue of Greek admixture in Albos, I honestly do not care if they have any, but to me denying they do is like saying that Turks are 100% turkomans.