Would Europe have been better off if the Axis won the Second World War?

[Tooting Carmen]

Yeah, the traditional Right-Wing movements in Europe were not pro-free-trade or liberalism. You just need to read Mussolini or José Antonio Primo de Rivera to conclude that they had more in common with the Left than with the Right from an economic POV.

Which brings me to a basic and crucial question: are the main divisions politically (you might call them 'Left-Right' or something else) mostly economic or social and cultural? And if it is the latter, then to what extent could the various Communist dictatorships actually be described as 'leftist' or 'progressive'?

[JMack]

Which brings me to a basic and crucial question: are the main divisions politically (you might call them 'Left-Right' or something else) mostly economic or social and cultural? And if it is the latter, then to what extent could the various Communist dictatorships actually be described as 'leftist' or 'progressive'?

I think there are many possibilities: culturally conservative and economically liberal (like general Anglo-American Right and their puppets in Latin America, think in the likes of Pinochet and Bolsonaro), culturally and politically anti-liberal (fascists, third-positionists, integralists and, believe it or not, some kinds of socialism like Arab socialism, Castrism, stalinism etc.), culturally liberal and economically anti-liberal (average leftists) and culturally and economically liberal (the so called ''Libertarians'').

As someone with sympathies for the Third-Position I'd consider a hardcore Socialist like Castro more an ally than someone like Reagan or Thatcher even if I'm culturally kinda conservative.

[Dragoon]

I was going to add that Anglo societies are the exception to the rule. Apart from the British Union of Fascists led by Sir Oswald Mosley there was never a legit Third-Position movement in any Anglo country.

These are countries totally dominated by the liberal mindset. Even most of the ''conservative alt-righters'' in Anglo countries are usually pro-neoliberalism/free-market.

They had British Union of Fascists, Nordic League, and the Right Club. The British-German friendship thing was popular with some elites/financiers.

I think there are many possibilities: culturally conservative and economically liberal (like general Anglo-American Right and their puppets in Latin America, think in the likes of Pinochet and Bolsonaro), culturally and politically anti-liberal (fascists, third-positionists, integralists and, believe it or not, some kinds of socialism like Arab socialism, Castrism, stalinism etc.), culturally liberal and economically anti-liberal (average leftists) and culturally and economically liberal (the so called ''Libertarians'').

As someone with sympathies for the Third-Position I'd consider a hardcore Socialist like Castro more an ally than someone like Reagan or Thatcher even if I'm culturally kinda conservative.

Guess you dont like neoliberalism? Not a fan either.

[Finnish Swede]

Finns have always known that morally wrong side won.

If we speculate about Nazis victory...then more interesting would be hear how long you think they would have stayed in power? Hardly forever. 1000years? Very unlikely. 70years (still today)? Nothing is forever and Nazis possible victory should not be seen like that.