Race Realism - The Biological Reality of Race

[Petros Agapetos]

How are you still a communist?


Core principle is that Humanity is only divided by class and nothing else.

Once you get red pilled on race, it's hard to go back! Most socialists are internationalist globalists. I am not. I do believe in the nation-state, and I take racial nationalism seriously.

[Daco Celtic]

Why is their IQ still way below any other population in the USA after several houndred years? Its slightly higher than the IQ of full SSA Africans due to mixing, but still way below the avarage white,asian and even latin american.

Another reality, west africans are biological superior to anyone else in sprinting.

Another reality, East Asians are bad drivers.

[Teutone]

Once you get red pilled on race, it's hard to go back! Most socialists are internationalist globalists. I am not. I do believe in the nation-state.

Well what part of your world view is still socialist then?

Just the economic model?

[Peterski]

I don't believe that popular categories of race, such as "white" and "black" are biologically real.

These people for example are not closely related to West Africans, despite looking "black" as well:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5783211

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5810846

[Myanthropologies]

Once you get red pilled on race, it's hard to go back! Most socialists are internationalist globalists. I am not. I do believe in the nation-state, and I take racial nationalism seriously.

If you do, then go back to Armenia.

[Peterski]

Then you have Negrito groups like Andaman Islanders who are even less related to West Africans.

[Petros Agapetos]

Well what part of your world view is still socialist then?

Just the economic model?

Yes. I am a Democratic Socialist. Democratic socialists hold that capitalism is inherently incompatible with what they hold to be the democratic values of liberty, equality and solidarity (fraternity); and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realization of a socialist society.

Democratic socialism is distinguished from social democracy on the basis that democratic socialists are committed to systemic transformation of the economy from capitalism to socialism, whereas social democracy is supportive of reforms to capitalism and compatible with it.

The adjective "democratic" is added to Socialism in order to distinguish this stream of thought from hardcore Marxist-Leninism.

[Smitty]

I believe race is a biological reality, but I think differences in mental/non-physical traits are not a result of their race i.e. I don't believe Sub-Saharan Africans have a low IQ or are so poor because of biological/racial reasons.

I think this is naive, though. Why should intelligence (i.e., the brain, a very physical organ) be exempt from racial disparities? That view is just too convenient in my opinion. We'll concede "physical" differences, but since intelligence is generally the most sought after trait, it must then be evenly distributed.

[Teutone]

Yes. I am a Democratic Socialist. Democratic socialists hold that capitalism is inherently incompatible with what they hold to be the democratic values of liberty, equality and solidarity (fraternity); and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realization of a socialist society.

Achieved by a planned economy and expropriation?

How can you be a race realist and demand equality?
We have equality of opportunity realized, socialism seems to head for economy of outcome.

If you are 1,65m your chance of becoming a professional basketplayer are pretty damn low, you can work hard enough yes to make it but by default you have it alot harder, we either accept this or not.

[Myanthropologies]

These people for example are not closely related to West Africans, despite looking "black" as well:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5783211

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5810846

Then you have Negrito groups like Andaman Islanders who are even less related to West Africans.

I'm very divided on the issue of "is race real or is it a social construct?" The reason is because in my eyes, neither view is 100% true. The problem with most people who say that race is socially constructed is that they imply that important genetic differences between human populations do not exist, when in reality, there are significant genetic differences among different groups of humans. On the flip side, that doesn't mean that those genetic differences correspond with the cateogires we westerners call "races," which are socially constructed.

I think that the concept of "race" is old school and problematic. I really like the idea of "genetic ancestry" and "populations" a lot better. Making race a primary factor in deciding what medical treatment to give a patient or which medicine to give them can have harmful reprecussions. "Race" doesn't account for the fact that most human populations are admixed to some degree. For example, African-Americans have a decent chunk of Northwestern European ancestry. If a doctor were to assign a treatment or drug for them based on the premise that they're "black," that won't be helpful if the African-American person turns out to be 100% Northwestern European in ancestry at the gene that is related to the disease in question or the gene related to the drug response. Additionally, Africans are the most genetically diverse human population on the planet. There is sometimes more genetic difference between two different Africans than between a European and an East Asian. Therefore, what might be applicable to an West African descended person might not be to an Ethiopian descended person, despite both of them being "black." This can also be said in regards to other human populations as well. There is a lot of variation to account for under the labels of "race." That being said, it is very true that genetic ancestry influences how people experience different diseases and how they respond to different drugs, and it is important to emphasize that in a medical context. It is also important to emphasize environmental and socio-economic factors that play a role, as well.