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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    Ironically, Mongols had all of these elements in their culture but colleborately viewed as more barbaric by Christians and Muslims just because they were more successful and alien than Vikings.
    It's because they were more foreign. It's not ironic at all. It's to be expected. It's bad enough to be victimized by some stupid kin, it's quite another when complete aliens come in and do the same - if not worse.

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    one has too agree with the op

    anglos, irish and most germanics need to understand their similairty to vikings is due to shared common descent and not direct viking influence, anglos et al are not vikings and should stop the LARPing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    During the Roman Empire Vikings and the lands they controlled weren't even considered European, they were considered savage "no mans land" and were always left off maps of Europe. Idealisation of vikings came after 18th century after they were characterised as "noble savages"; but certainly in ancient and medieval times, Mongols, Magyars and Vikings were all considered savage foreign forces.

    Of course now people do Viking roleplay and idealise them; had you come into contact with a viking back then they would of chopped off your head, burnt down your house and taken your wife.
    Those Japhetics...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post

    one has too agree with the op

    anglos, irish and most germanics need to understand their similairty to vikings is due to shared common descent and not direct viking influence, anglos et al are not vikings and should stop the LARPing.
    Don't think I've ever heard an Anglo call themselves viking mate, put down that pipe; 2015 study showed Viking admixture in England is insignificant; only place it exists in a significant level is from Norge Vikings up in Orkney.

    Anglo similarities comes from Saxon/Anglo germanic blood.

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    I doubt the OP will find many Apricitians worshiping Vikings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post


    one has too agree with the op

    anglos, irish and most germanics need to understand their similairty to vikings is due to shared common descent and not direct viking influence, anglos et al are not vikings and should stop the LARPing.
    I had a friend who did that for a while. I found it grating because I felt that he was turning his back on his Celtic heritage in favor the more "cool" Vikings. I mean, I don't dislike the stuff. He's been "borrowing" a book on Viking culture from me for about six months now...lol...but there is a difference between stupid larping and interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Don't think I've ever heard an Anglo call themselves viking mate, put down that pipe; 2015 study showed Viking admixture in England is insignificant; only place it exists in a significant level is from Norge Vikings up in Orkney.

    Anglo similarities comes from Saxon/Anglo germanic blood.
    The kings got tired of paying the Dane geld and killed them all. It was quite shocking when I heard of that.

    Edit: it's mostly Americans who do that stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Don't think I've ever heard an Anglo call themselves viking mate, put down that pipe; 2015 study showed Viking admixture in England is insignificant; only place it exists in a significant level is from Norge Vikings up in Orkney.

    Anglo similarities comes from Saxon/Anglo germanic blood.
    british beaker people where very north germanic like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    british beaker people where very north germanic like
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian of the Age View Post
    Ironically, Mongols had all of these elements in their culture but colleborately viewed as more barbaric by Christians and Muslims just because they were more successful and alien than Vikings.
    At least the Mongols had the good sense to leave most of the complicated civilizational business of administration, trade and engineering to the more civilized peoples they conquered. They were also quite instrumental in unifying much of the Eurasian continent economically and were famously religiously tolerant, ushering in an era of cultural fusion and religious syncretism (the good kind, in my opinion). I don't think you could make the same lofty claims for the Viking age.
    'The fiercest fighting zone of nationality is Macedonia, and here the races so shade into one another that it was possible for the Bulgarian professors to find only seven hundred Serbians, where the Serbian statisticians found over two million and the Greek enumerators no Serbians at all.'

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