Do you consider the Left/Right divide to be more economic or social/cultural?

[Seya]

it depends on the country. here is only economic. actually the right wing is the one who advocates for all kinds of human rights, while the left wing is more conservative (in speach at least, cose they do nothing in practice)

[Cernunnos]

In Portugal: Economic
In Brazil: Both
In the USA: Social/Cultural

[Tooting Carmen]

In Portugal: Economic
In Brazil: Both
In the USA: Social/Cultural

So over things like gay rights and feminism, there is not much of a debate in Portugal then?

[Cernunnos]

So over things like gay rights and feminism, there is not much of a debate in Portugal then?

No only among the identitarian/"woke" left and the most classical radical left. But that is just a minority of a minority. Now with the rise of the far/conservative (evangelical fueled) right we may see a resurgence of those debates, but the main ones were in the 2000's about gay marriage, abortion and gay adoption.

[Tooting Carmen]

No only among the identitarian/"woke" left and the most classical radical left. But that is just a minority of a minority. Now with the rise of the far/conservative (evangelical fueled) right we may see a resurgence of those debates, but the main ones were in the 2000's about gay marriage, abortion and gay adoption.

From what I can tell, Portugal when compared to e.g. Denmark and Sweden has a much more limited welfare state, but at the same time more nationalised companies and less competition.

[Cernunnos]

From what I can tell, Portugal when compared to e.g. Denmark and Sweden has a much more limited welfare state, but at the same time more nationalised companies and less competition.

Nah. Portugal has only 15% Public employees compared with 25-30% from scandinavia on average, also we (the government) don't spend as much as % of our gdp as those countries usualy do.

[Tooting Carmen]

Nah. Portugal has only 15% Public employees compared with 25-30% from scandinavia on average, also we (the government) don't spend as much as % of our gdp as those countries usualy do.

So how come Scando countries are usually rated as being more 'economically free' than Portugal and other Med countries? Is it more to do with the initial bureaucracy involved in setting up a business?

[Cernunnos]

So how come Scando countries are usually rated as being more 'economically free' than Portugal and other Med countries? Is it more to do with the initial bureaucracy involved in setting up a business?

Those rankings are bullshit made by foundations who are funded by mega corporations. Also those scando countries are at max social democracies with capitalist tendencies, their companies (and even their state owned companies) are involved in third world exploitation. But I think it's the less bereaucracy involved yeah and maybe some low taxes.

[Smitty]

No only among the identitarian/"woke" left and the most classical radical left. But that is just a minority of a minority. Now with the rise of the far/conservative (evangelical fueled) right we may see a resurgence of those debates, but the main ones were in the 2000's about gay marriage, abortion and gay adoption.

There is an evangelical movement in Portugal? That surprises me, although growing up, I knew of a Portuguese missionary family (they were Portuguese themselves).

[Cernunnos]

There is an evangelical movement in Portugal? That surprises me, although growing up, I knew of a Portuguese missionary family (they were Portuguese themselves).

Brazilian immigration. Protestantism among Portuguese people is very irrelevant.