Are Persians genetically closer to Europeans than to Near Easterners?

[Arsen_]

We have lots of evidences. Proto-Indo-European may have originated in Anatolia but IE languages certainly dispersed from the Steppes, with the exception of Armenian and Hittite (and maybe Albanian).

Exactly! Proto-Indo-Europeans originated in Armenian Highland and Anatolia therefore the Hittites (and their twin-brothers Armenians!) needed no to be Indo-Europeanzied because they have always been Indo-European from the very beginning!

And IE languages which dispersed from the Steppes initially came to the Steppes not from the Moon but directly from the lands of the Hittites and Armenians.

[zarzian]

Iranians are probably the most paradoxically self-hating and simultaneously self-promoting nationality on the planet, at least on the internet. When they're not droning on and on about how much they hate arabs, half the time they brag about their "closeness" to Europeans (they're no closer to Europeans than any other middle eastern swarthoid) and the other half they claim they have their own unique culture and that Euros only copied them. News flash, speaking an Indo-European language (with 50%+ arabic vocabulary in the case of Persian) has no bearing on cultural or even genetic affinity in today's day and age. I've also noticed a curious uptick of comments from sockpuppet accounts on various forums praising Persians for being "so beautiful", "so smart", "so rich", "so civilised" and so on. I think Iranians must be among the very few nationalities so shameless as to resort to such tactics, at least to this extent.

Out of the tens of thousands of Iranians that I have known or met, not a single one ever considered Europeans as some sort of a cousin or felt some sort of an intrinsic connections with them, other then some ancient connections through shared language or some sort of a shared Aryan heritage. But in general, Iranians consider ourselves very different from Europeans in terms of genetics and phenotypes though there are rare overlaps. And on the other hand, a point that low IQ and misinformed people such as yourself seem to miss, is that Iranians are very different from Semites as well, just because we are in the middle east does not mean that we have to be of the same stock as Arabs, though again there are more overlaps but we are more different from Yemenis then Sicilians are from Icelanders.

[Kamal900]

Out of the tens of thousands of Iranians that I have known or met, not a single one ever considered Europeans as some sort of a cousin or felt some sort of an intrinsic connections with them, other then some ancient connections through shared language or some sort of a shared Aryan heritage. But in general, Iranians consider ourselves very different from Europeans in terms of genetics and phenotypes though there are rare overlaps. And on the other hand, a point that low IQ and misinformed people such as yourself seem miss, is that Iranians are very different from Semites as well, just because we are in the middle east does not mean that we have to be of the same stock as Arabs, though again there are more overlaps but we are more different from Yemenis then Sicilians are from Icelanders.

Indeed. Assyrians are Semites and they cluster with non-Semitic peoples of west asia and Jews of Mesopotamia though. Persians were very civilized while the Germanic peoples were Barbarians during the time of the Sassanians and beyond.

[Leto]

Persians are Near-Easterners.

That's true. The Persian language originated in Fars, Southwestern Iran

[AmazingHazén]

Out of the tens of thousands of Iranians that I have known or met, not a single one ever considered Europeans as some sort of a cousin or felt some sort of an intrinsic connections with them, other then some ancient connections through shared language or some sort of a shared Aryan heritage. But in general, Iranians consider ourselves very different from Europeans in terms of genetics and phenotypes though there are rare overlaps. And on the other hand, a point that low IQ and misinformed people such as yourself seem to miss, is that Iranians are very different from Semites as well, just because we are in the middle east does not mean that we have to be of the same stock as Arabs, though again there are more overlaps but we are more different from Yemenis then Sicilians are from Icelanders.

I never said you were Arabs bro (though your culture and language have a huge amount of Arab influence). I'm speaking from my personal experience of Iranians in Sweden when I say your people have an infuriating tendency to try to ingratiate themselves with westerners and Europeans, claiming you have more in common with them than you do with most middle easterners. Some of you even try to pass yourselves off for Italians or Spanish. Truly disgusting behaviour, if you ask me.

I don't know where you've lived but I assure you, this is quite a common phenomenon among diaspora Iranians.

[lameduck]

I never said you were Arabs bro (though your culture and language have a huge amount of Arab influence). I'm speaking from my personal experience of Iranians in Sweden when I say your people have an infuriating tendency to try to ingratiate themselves with westerners and Europeans, claiming you have more in common with them than you do with most middle easterners. Some of you even try to pass yourselves off for Italians or Spanish. Truly disgusting behaviour, if you ask me.

I don't know where you've lived but I assure you, this is quite a common phenomenon among diaspora Iranians.

what wrong with integrating , Pakis dont integrate its problem then , Iranian integrate its problem then too?I think integration is good for multiculturalism.

[Leto]

I never said you were Arabs bro (though your culture and language have a huge amount of Arab influence). I'm speaking from my personal experience of Iranians in Sweden when I say your people have an infuriating tendency to try to ingratiate themselves with westerners and Europeans, claiming you have more in common with them than you do with most middle easterners. Some of you even try to pass yourselves off for Italians or Spanish. Truly disgusting behaviour, if you ask me.

I don't know where you've lived but I assure you, this is quite a common phenomenon among diaspora Iranians.

Persians and Middle Easterners in general love white women and half Iranian half European mixes often pass as white. Adrian Pasdar is half Iranian half Russian-German, his ex-wife is white American and their sons are completely white racially

[AmazingHazén]

what wrong with integrating , Pakis dont integrate its problem then , Iranian integrate its problem then too?I think integration is good for multiculturalism.

Ingratiate is different from integrate. It means to suck up to someone in a sleazy way.

[Leto]

I never said you were Arabs bro (though your culture and language have a huge amount of Arab influence). I'm speaking from my personal experience of Iranians in Sweden when I say your people have an infuriating tendency to try to ingratiate themselves with westerners and Europeans, claiming you have more in common with them than you do with most middle easterners. Some of you even try to pass yourselves off for Italians or Spanish. Truly disgusting behaviour, if you ask me.

I don't know where you've lived but I assure you, this is quite a common phenomenon among diaspora Iranians.

Persians and Middle Easterners in general love white women and half Iranian half European mixes often pass as white. Adrian Pasdar is half Iranian half Russian-German, his ex-wife is white American and their sons are completely white racially

[AmazingHazén]

what wrong with integrating , Pakis dont integrate its problem then , Iranian integrate its problem then too?I think integration is good for multiculturalism.

Ingratiate is different from integrate. It means to suck up to someone in a sleazy way.