Are Persians genetically closer to Europeans than to Near Easterners?

[Blondie]

Stop that nonsense! Steppe "theory" is just a hypothesis and to me it is utter bullshit. Never ever in history half-human-half-animals from steppe produced anything meaningful let alone civilazition, language, writing, art and so on.

PIE homeland was in Pontic Steppe, accept it steppe guy:

[AmazingHazén]

Iranians are probably the most paradoxically self-hating and simultaneously self-promoting nationality on the planet, at least on the internet. When they're not droning on and on about how much they hate arabs, half the time they brag about their "closeness" to Europeans (they're no closer to Europeans than any other middle eastern swarthoid) and the other half they claim they have their own unique culture and that Euros only copied them. News flash, speaking an Indo-European language (with 50%+ arabic vocabulary in the case of Persian) has no bearing on cultural or even genetic affinity in today's day and age. I've also noticed a curious uptick of comments from sockpuppet accounts on various forums praising Persians for being "so beautiful", "so smart", "so rich", "so civilised" and so on. I think Iranians must be among the very few nationalities so shameless as to resort to such tactics, at least to this extent.

[Kivan]

Persians are Near-Easterners.

[Kamal900]

Iranians are probably the most paradoxically self-hating and simultaneously self-promoting nationality on the planet, at least on the internet. When they're not droning on and on about how much they hate arabs, half the time they brag about their "closeness" to Europeans (they're no closer to Europeans than any other middle eastern swarthoid) and the other half they claim they have their own unique culture and that Euros only copied them. News flash, speaking an Indo-European language (with 50%+ arabic vocabulary in the case of Persian) has no bearing on cultural or even genetic affinity in today's day and age. I've also noticed a curious uptick of comments from sockpuppet accounts on various forums praising Persians for being "so beautiful", "so smart", "so rich", "so civilised" and so on. I think Iranians must be among the very few nationalities so shameless as to resort to such tactics, at least to this extent.

Indeed. Well said. They just pester against us just to show how European they are. Of course, not all of them are like this, but at the same time, we're being used as scapegoats by OWD middle easterners just to garner acceptance from Europeans and the western world. I may not look like an Arab myself, but I'm very proud to be one.

[JQP4545]

Middle Easterners are genetically diverse and Iranians share relatedness to both northern and eastern Europeans from their Steppe ancestry (10-20%) as well as people from the Levant and eastern Mediterranean from their native Caucasus related ancestry. During the Chalcolithic we start to find Iranian/Caucasus like DNA in the Levant as well as NE Africa, Anatolia, the Balkans and Italy. Iranians don't have much DNA from SW Asia (Natufians) or north Africa (Iberomaurusian).
If you mean culturally, they have their own unique culture because they speak an Indo-European language, but are Muslim.

[AmazingHazén]

Middle Easterners are genetically diverse and Iranians share relatedness to both northern and eastern Europeans from their Steppe ancestry (10-20%) as well as people from the Levant and eastern Mediterranean from their native Caucasus related ancestry. During the Chalcolithic we start to find Iranian/Caucasus like DNA in the Levant as well as NE Africa, Anatolia, the Balkans and Italy. Iranians don't have much DNA from SW Asia (Natufians) or north Africa (Iberomaurusian).
If you mean culturally, they have their own unique culture because they speak an Indo-European language, but are Muslim.

Dude, you need to stop being so accepting of Iranians as having anything in common with Europeans. I'm very familiar with Iranians due to many of them living here in Sweden and all of them are swarthy as fuck. Speaking an Indo-European language or having minimal amounts of steppe ancestry means literally nothing in determining cultural affinity.

[Leto]

Dude, you need to stop being so accepting of Iranians as having anything in common with Europeans. I'm very familiar with Iranians due to many of them living here in Sweden and all of them are swarthy as fuck. Speaking an Indo-European language or having minimal amounts of steppe ancestry means literally nothing in determining cultural affinity.

They assimilate better since they are not Sunni and there's much fewer Islamist scumbags among them. I am against all kinds of Islam in white countries but nevertheless I've yet to hear about Shia terrorists blowing shit up and shooting people in Europe or America. And before someone mentions Hezbollah, they are only concerned with Israel, they don't care about Europeans or ordinary Americans (Zionist neocons are obviously not among them).

[FinalFlash]

Stop that nonsense! Steppe "theory" is just a hypothesis and to me it is utter bullshit. Never ever in history half-human-half-animals from steppe produced anything meaningful let alone civilazition, language, writing, art and so on.

It could be plausible. Some linguists subscribe to the Anatolian hypothesis.

[Leto]

At least they are not part of the Papuan façade.

Are Pashtuns part of the Papuan Façade?

[FinalFlash]

They are closest to non-Semitic Near Easterners (Armenians, Afghans, and Kurds) as well as to some Mesopotamian peoples like Assyrians.

They form a tight cluster with Kurds, Yazidis, and Azeris but are also related to neighboring peoples(depending on region)