Scythians R1b, not R1a

[Blondie]

R1b-Z93 doesn't exist. There is R1a-Z93.

You are right, i mean r1a-z93

[Peterski]

Wait, Scy009 with R1b-P312 clusters with North-Western Europeans?

These are his scores in Eurogenes K13 (this is not my upload though):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.75
2 North_Atlantic 36.8
3 West_Med 16.57
4 Red_Sea 2.11
5 East_Med 2.05
6 West_Asian 1.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 9.44
2 East_German 9.63
3 Polish 9.71
4 Southwest_Finnish 10.68
5 Ukrainian 10.79
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.94
7 North_Swedish 12.11
8 Austrian 12.14
9 Croatian 12.67
10 Hungarian 12.93
11 Russian_Smolensk 13.06
12 Estonian_Polish 13.24
13 Belorussian 13.38
14 Estonian 13.71
15 Finnish 14.68
16 Southwest_Russian 14.82
17 Swedish 15.32
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.43
19 Moldavian 16.21
20 Lithuanian 16.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.3% Lithuanian + 29.7% French_Basque @ 2.65
2 64% Lithuanian + 36% Southwest_French @ 4.12
3 74.8% Belorussian + 25.2% French_Basque @ 4.12
4 75.1% Estonian_Polish + 24.9% French_Basque @ 4.36
5 68.3% Estonian + 31.7% Southwest_French @ 4.51
6 81.5% Polish + 18.5% French_Basque @ 4.57
7 74.5% Estonian + 25.5% French_Basque @ 4.6
8 75.5% Russian_Smolensk + 24.5% French_Basque @ 4.68
9 65.2% Lithuanian + 34.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.73
10 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.8
11 69.5% Estonian + 30.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.91
12 71.9% Estonian + 28.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.2
13 71.1% Estonian + 28.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.41
14 66.9% Lithuanian + 33.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.47
15 77.7% Polish + 22.3% Southwest_French @ 5.58
16 68.9% Estonian + 31.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.63
17 69.8% Estonian + 30.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.65
18 65.5% Lithuanian + 34.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.7
19 69.5% Belorussian + 30.5% Southwest_French @ 5.7
20 69.3% Estonian + 30.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.74

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Wait, Scy009 with R1b-P312 cluster with North-Western Europeans?

These are his scores in Eurogenes K13 (this is not my upload though):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40.75
2 North_Atlantic 36.8
3 West_Med 16.57
4 Red_Sea 2.11
5 East_Med 2.05
6 West_Asian 1.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 9.44
2 East_German 9.63
3 Polish 9.71
4 Southwest_Finnish 10.68
5 Ukrainian 10.79
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.94
7 North_Swedish 12.11
8 Austrian 12.14
9 Croatian 12.67
10 Hungarian 12.93
11 Russian_Smolensk 13.06
12 Estonian_Polish 13.24
13 Belorussian 13.38
14 Estonian 13.71
15 Finnish 14.68
16 Southwest_Russian 14.82
17 Swedish 15.32
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.43
19 Moldavian 16.21
20 Lithuanian 16.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.3% Lithuanian + 29.7% French_Basque @ 2.65
2 64% Lithuanian + 36% Southwest_French @ 4.12
3 74.8% Belorussian + 25.2% French_Basque @ 4.12
4 75.1% Estonian_Polish + 24.9% French_Basque @ 4.36
5 68.3% Estonian + 31.7% Southwest_French @ 4.51
6 81.5% Polish + 18.5% French_Basque @ 4.57
7 74.5% Estonian + 25.5% French_Basque @ 4.6
8 75.5% Russian_Smolensk + 24.5% French_Basque @ 4.68
9 65.2% Lithuanian + 34.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.73
10 67.7% Lithuanian + 32.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.8
11 69.5% Estonian + 30.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.91
12 71.9% Estonian + 28.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.2
13 71.1% Estonian + 28.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.41
14 66.9% Lithuanian + 33.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.47
15 77.7% Polish + 22.3% Southwest_French @ 5.58
16 68.9% Estonian + 31.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.63
17 69.8% Estonian + 30.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.65
18 65.5% Lithuanian + 34.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.7
19 69.5% Belorussian + 30.5% Southwest_French @ 5.7
20 69.3% Estonian + 30.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.74

I was always curious, what is considered as "Baltic" in those autosomal classifications. I mean, it is not just area near Baltic Sea.

[Peterski]

I was always curious, what are are considered as "Baltic" in those autosomal classifications. I mean, it is not just area near Baltic Sea.

Baltic is a component indicating populations closely related to and descended from Proto-Balto-Slavs.

In K36 equivalent is East-Central Euro.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Baltic is a component indicating populations closely related to and descended from Proto-Balto-Slavs.

In K36 equivalent is East-Central Euro.

So Baltic component - whole Eastern and Central Euro? (excluding Balkan and Hungary, and Ukrainian steppes) ?

[Peterski]

So Baltic component - whole Eastern and Central Euro?

Maybe today, but not before year 500 of Common Era.

[Papastratosels26]

Cool

[Lemgrant]

Cool

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[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Most of these R1b were wrongly assigned and will be corrected after peer review, this is the correction: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...2mo/edit#gid=0

The P312 Scythian from Starosillya looks like an assimilated European, probably a Celt. He clusters with Northwestern Europeans.

Holy fuck, still no R1a

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

But most dominant, R1a.

There is even more truth in Kipchak Hakan's Turkic Scythians than R1b rulers of Steppe.

No. You're jelaous. Yamnanya also R1b which is most important PIE culture. Deal with the facts boy.

They belong to r1b-z93

None of these western Schyntians belong to R1a but R1b, if you don't like it go complain to researches who did the study.