Huawei Frightens Europe's Data Protectors. America Does, Too

[Harkonnen]

A foreign power with possible unbridled access to Europe’s data is causing alarm in the region. No, it’s not China. It’s the U.S.


As the U.S. pushes ahead with the “Cloud Act” it enacted about a year ago, Europe is scrambling to curb its reach. Under the act, all U.S. cloud service providers from Microsoft and IBM to Amazon -- when ordered -- have to provide American authorities data stored on their servers regardless of where it’s housed. With those providers controlling much of the cloud market in Europe, the act could potentially give the U.S. the right to access information on large swaths of the region’s people and companies.


The U.S. says the act is aimed at aiding investigations. Some people are drawing parallels between the legislation and the National Intelligence Law that China put in place in 2017 requiring all its organizations and citizens to assist authorities with access to information. The Chinese law, which the U.S. says is a tool for espionage, is cited by President Donald Trump’s administration as a reason to avoid doing business with companies like Huawei Technologies Co.


“I don’t mean to compare U.S. and Chinese laws, because obviously they aren’t the same, but what we see is that on both sides, Chinese and American, there is clearly a push to have extraterritorial access to data,” said Laure de la Raudiere, a French lawmaker who co-heads a parliamentary cyber-security and sovereignty group. “This must be a wake up call for Europe to accelerate its own, sovereign offer in the data sector.”


Matters of espionage and foreign interference will be at the center of talks at Europe’s biggest telecoms and technology conference, the MWC Barcelona, that starts Monday.
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[MissMischief]

The US are the good guys and only ever use their spying for goodness.

[Teutone]

With US influence I know what I got, with Chinese I only can think of the worst.

Glad my nation banns Huawei from providing 5G

[Harkonnen]

With US influence I know what I got, with Chinese I only can think of the worst.

Glad my nation banns Huawei from providing 5G

Germany is banning Huawei for real? What I've been reading recent weeks Merkel and co have been one of the strongest defenders of Huawei. Well winds can change.

[Harkonnen]

The US are the good guys and only ever use their spying for goodness.

Whoever does spying, Euro companies are in big disadvantage when China or USA have full access on everything. Not that there are many high tech companies in Europe. Old companies are withering away, and nothing new (significant business wise) has not been born in decades. Wasteland is the direction.

[Crimean]

You can make an autonomous Internet, not connected with the outside world, as in North Korea or Turkmenistan. But this is a bad decision, isn't it? If the country has lost the technological race, and all the patents are in the hands of the winner, then it remains only to use the technology of the "enemy" and agree to all the conditions. Return to the pre-Internet era is not possible.

[Harkonnen]

You can make an autonomous Internet, not connected with the outside world, as in North Korea or Turkmenistan. But this is a bad decision, isn't it? If the country has lost the technological race, and all the patents are in the hands of the winner, then it remains only to use the technology of the "enemy" and agree to all the conditions. Return to the pre-Internet era is not possible.

Or just let Nokia or Ericsson build the infra. Problem of course is that many have already done agreements with Huawei and termination of contract will cost money. That is why many telecoms and poiticians are defending Huawei; they are just too deep in shit to back down anymore.

[Crimean]

Or just let Nokia or Ericsson build the infra. Problem of course is that many have already done agreements with Huawei and termination of contract will cost money. That is why many telecoms and poiticians are defending Huawei; they are just too deep in shit to back down anymore.

This was to be expected; for this, the population so zealously was deprived the right to influence the decisions of the government throughout the 20th century, having lost the possibility of feedback from their governments. Now all political decisions are made in the interests of big business.

[Teutone]

Germany is banning Huawei for real? What I've been reading recent weeks Merkel and co have been one of the strongest defenders of Huawei. Well winds can change.

Its not fully banned, but most likely will happen.

Are you aware of the incredible chinese product piracy and damage to Germany by it?

Also yes US control over our secret service and internet is not positive, but what is the improvement of have the same exact influence by another superpower in adition to it?

[MissMischief]

Whoever does spying, Euro companies are in big disadvantage when China or USA have full access on everything. Not that there are many high tech companies in Europe. Old companies are withering away, and nothing new (significant business wise) has not been born in decades. Wasteland is the direction.

How come there's so few European high tech companies or anyway not as big as those in the US and China? What do you think? Also, what about Japan? In the 1970s and 1980s they were dominant!