Bulgarians 40% Slav on average

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I was wrong than. You can't deny they have Kavkaz and steppe influenced culture which is very non Slavic.
Have you seen family members of dude Kozak ? He isn't from Kuban but Black Sea Coast and his entire family is exotic as fuck.

[Not a Cop]

Y-dna frequences of 90 Kuban Kossacks:

R1a (SRY1532) 47,8%
I2a1 (P37.2) 16,7%
R1b1a2 (M269) 8,9%
N1c (TAT) 6,7%
I1 (M253) 4,4%
J2 (M172) 4,4%
E1b1b1 (M78) 3,3%
I2a2a (M223) 2,2%
I2* (M170) 1,1%
G2a (P15) 1,1%
T (M70) 1,1%
N1b (P43) 1,1%
Q (M242) 1,1%

[Not a Cop]

I was wrong than. You can't deny they have Kavkaz and steppe influenced culture which is very non Slavic.
Have you seen family members of dude Kozak ? He isn't from Kuban but Black Sea Coast and his entire family is exotic as fuck.

I have no reasons to deny infuence in culture, however genetically it's pretty much non-existant, as for Kozak dude i haven't seen his photos, however one example doesn't proff anything, i have seen plenty of people of partial or full Kossak descent and they don't look any different from South-Russians or Ukrainians.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I have no reasons to deny infuence in culture, however genetically it's pretty much non-existant, as for Kozak dude i haven't seen his photos, however one example doesn't proff anything, i have seen plenty of people of partial or full Kossak descent and they don't look any different from South-Russians or Ukrainians.

You must check him out lmao, he is Pontid nationalist and his entire family are swarthy Pontoids ranging from Balkanite to Turkish and Iranian but not Slavic.
He was banned tho, damn

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/me...hp?23167-KOZAK

[TheMaestro]

And whats the point?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

And whats the point?

That their Slav ancestry is pretty damn significant.

[TheMaestro]

That their Slav ancestry is pretty damn significant.

Well then good for them if they consider themself slavs why not.

[Roy]

https://aquilaaquilonis.livejournal.com/27879.html




Kuban Kossaks are almost pure Slavs, there has not been found any evidence of significant Caucasian admixture neither in Y nor in Autosomals.


http://xn--c1acc6aafa1c.xn--p1ai/?page_id=9006





MDLP K23B

Don_cossack 0.74 0.91 2.31 0.63 0.42 0.15 0.26 29.10 0.06 0.28 0.94 6.44 0.02 0.33 0.04 0.81 0.72 0.49 0.04 0.99 0.00 0.45 53.87
Russian_South 0.40 2.74 2.23 0.62 0.80 0.20 0.44 28.23 0.04 0.05 0.76 7.13 0.02 0.21 0.01 1.30 1.04 0.62 0.07 0.21 0.03 0.19 52.66
Ukrainian_East 0.26 1.79 2.05 0.16 0.37 0.29 0.20 29.60 0.07 0.11 0.84 7.87 0.09 0.31 0.05 1.26 0.75 0.15 0.16 0.19 0.02 0.29 53.13


https://aquilaaquilonis.livejournal.com/27879.html

These are modern Cuban Cossacks. They seem badass here, I guess I'm beginning to understand why in the colloquial Polish word kozak means someone who is daring. We even have a verb ''kozaczyć'' which means to behave in such a way.



All in all this bunch looks like regular Russians to me, they are called Kuban Cossack Choir so I suspect that they are them. I'd not confuse these people with Circassians / Adyghe or with any Kavkasian ethnicities.

[Nurzat]

...

what proxy would you recommend for Proto-Slavic / Early Slavic especially in relation to Eastern Balkans (Bulgarians and Romanians)?

while the Slavic side origin should be broadly the same for Bulgarians and Romanians, I think the Balkan side could be a bit different, with a more central/southwestern Balkan origin in Romanians (the heterogenous Vlachs in the Vlach continuum of mountainous Thessaly, Macedonia, Timok, Banat), however Bulgarian Iron Age should work as proxy, but what to use for Slavic?

also, for NW Balkan populations (HU, HR, SV) a Germanic source should be also added I guess, and/or an Iron Age Celtic source maybe? and departing from that, then adding other sources on top, to see what other populations (beyond Slavic, Germanic, Celtic) improve the fit.


for example I tried these:

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.6422% / 0.02642213
76.6 CZE_Early_Slav
23.4 BGR_IA

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.0407% / 0.02040734
67.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
32.6 BGR_IA

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 2.0484% / 0.02048360
63.0 Early_Medieval_Wielkopolska
37.0 BGR_IA


also:

Target--------------------------Distance-----RUS_Sunghir_MA--BGR_IA

Bulgarian:BulgarianF2-------0.02575200-----57.0-----43.0
Romanian:RO001------------0.03026554-----54.0-----46.0
Bulgarian:BulgarianE2------0.03120625-----53.2-----46.8
Romanian:G408-------------0.02401594-----52.8-----47.2
Romanian:G434-------------0.03206459-----51.6-----48.4
Romanian:G429-------------0.03155045-----49.6-----50.4
Romanian:A325-------------0.02966767-----49.0-----51.0
Romanian:A343-------------0.02558361-----47.4-----52.6
Romanian:G428-------------0.02652418-----45.6-----54.4
Bulgarian:Bulgaria1---------0.02728948-----44.8-----55.2
Romanian:G421-------------0.02699455-----44.0-----56.0
Bulgarian:BulgarianD6-----0.02297625-----41.6-----58.4
Bulgarian:BulgarianH2-----0.03297877-----39.4-----60.6
Average---------------------0.02822071-----48.5-----51.5