Anglo-Saxons vs Vikings, who were fairer-skinned?

[ecptr]

Both Irish and British have less Mediterranean admixture than Southern Germans and they are most probably on a par with North Germans.

The admixture might be on par with Northern Germans but not the looks. Northern Germans are far more Nordic (non-Mediterranean) looking.

[Grace O'Malley]

The admixture might be on par with Northern Germans but not the looks. Northern Germans are far more Nordic (non-Mediterranean) looking.

I don't care if North Germans are more Nordic my point was West Irish don't have any more Mediterranean. Irish are Northwestern Europeans they don't have to be Nordic looking.

They are from Galway. They still look Isles which was my point.

[Septentrion]

The admixture might be on par with Northern Germans but not the looks. Northern Germans are far more Nordic (non-Mediterranean) looking.

Northern Germans are absolutely not more Nordic than the British Islanders. Firstly, the mean cephalic of Northern Germans is higher than that of the British Isles. Parts of Northern Germany due to its proximity to Denmark have higher frequency for blondness on average than the British Isles, although the eastern parts of Britain are comparable due to historical reasons. Northern Germans are by no means lighter-eyed than the British Islanders, nor are they lighter-skinned. My conclusion is either, you don’t know what are the criteria for the Mediterranean race or the definition has changed. Northern Germans are far Cromagnid than Nordid in race. You need to relax, dude.

[Septentrion]

The Borreby is a major racial element in Northern and Central Germany!!!

[Vasag]

I don't care if North Germans are more Nordic my point was West Irish don't have any more Mediterranean. Irish are Northwestern Europeans they don't have to be Nordic looking.

They are from Galway. They still look Isles which was my point.

One reason why Mediterranean genetics may be present in the Irish population is due to historical connections. Ireland has a long history of trade and migration with Mediterranean regions such as Spain, Italy, and Portugal. This has led to cultural and genetic exchanges over time, with individuals from these regions settling in Ireland and leaving their mark on the country's genetic and cultural makeup.

Another possible reason why the Irish population may have Mediterranean genetics is due to climate and geography. Ireland's mild and wet climate is similar to that of many Mediterranean regions, which may have made it a more hospitable destination for Mediterranean immigrants in the past. This could have led to increased migration from these regions, and as a result, greater genetic and cultural diversity in the Irish population. In more recent times, Ireland has also seen an increase in immigration from countries such as Italy, Spain, and Greece, which may contribute to a greater presence of Mediterranean genetics and culture in the population. This ongoing cultural exchange is part of what makes Ireland such a vibrant and diverse country, and it is important to celebrate and respect the unique heritage and contributions of all individuals. It is also worth noting that being Mediterranean or having Mediterranean ancestry is not something to be ashamed of. Diversity is a strength, and every individual should be proud of their unique heritage and cultural background. By celebrating and embracing our differences, we can build a more inclusive and understanding society that values and respects all individuals and their unique contributions.

[tipirneni]

It all depends upon who you think is Vikings. there vikings were diverse and the few among Motala culture share affinity with current day Indians like this reconstructed skeleton



Some Germans even had Indian/Turkic mixed people. So there is some diversity there too..

[Monapps]

Medieval Anglo-Saxon samples from Britain cluster with modern Scandinavians because Anglo-Saxons and Vikings are the same North Germanic people.

[Monapps]

It was said somewhere i read once that people from peripheral regions and ethnicities tend to be more nationalist, so you have the phenomenon of Spaniards and Italians being very pro White compared to Brits or the French, even in the UK people from the southeastern most counties of Kent and Essex have recently expressed more nationalist leanings than those to the west and north i.e the Scots. You have Nigel Farage with his more mixed background and growing up in the SE corner showing nationalist leanings. Though Hitler as a man was very pale, he could pass in Britain and actually is very N central Euro looking in a brunet manner.

There are different issues at play here. One is the need to belong so people in the periphery have to try harder to be accepted as part of the group ie off-Whites and another is the "frontier effect" meaning people living in frontier lands are in constant conflict hardening and radicalizing them.
I don't agree they're more nationalist but they do have a tendency to show it off publicly in a rather aggressive manner.

[Jingle Bell]

In Taxonomy and Genetics, they were almost the same

[Grace O'Malley]

One reason why Mediterranean genetics may be present in the Irish population is due to historical connections. Ireland has a long history of trade and migration with Mediterranean regions such as Spain, Italy, and Portugal. This has led to cultural and genetic exchanges over time, with individuals from these regions settling in Ireland and leaving their mark on the country's genetic and cultural makeup.

Another possible reason why the Irish population may have Mediterranean genetics is due to climate and geography. Ireland's mild and wet climate is similar to that of many Mediterranean regions, which may have made it a more hospitable destination for Mediterranean immigrants in the past. This could have led to increased migration from these regions, and as a result, greater genetic and cultural diversity in the Irish population. In more recent times, Ireland has also seen an increase in immigration from countries such as Italy, Spain, and Greece, which may contribute to a greater presence of Mediterranean genetics and culture in the population. This ongoing cultural exchange is part of what makes Ireland such a vibrant and diverse country, and it is important to celebrate and respect the unique heritage and contributions of all individuals. It is also worth noting that being Mediterranean or having Mediterranean ancestry is not something to be ashamed of. Diversity is a strength, and every individual should be proud of their unique heritage and cultural background. By celebrating and embracing our differences, we can build a more inclusive and understanding society that values and respects all individuals and their unique contributions.

If the Irish had more Mediterranean genetics than other Northwestern populations they wouldn't cluster where they do.

Irish genetics is well studied and what is the greater presence of Mediterranean genetics in the Irish? I really don't know of any Mediterranean immigrants going to Ireland in any significant numbers in the past. I doubt anyone would say the Irish climate would be attractive to someone from more southern climes. It's wet, windswept and gloomy. The average summer temperatures are between 60°F/15°C to 70°F/20°C. Ireland was controlled by Britain for hundreds of years so it wasn't exactly a magnet for migration or for independent trade. It was the other way around and the Irish left Ireland.