Who is more European genetically/historically Northern or Southern Euros? Please discuss/debate

[kleenex]

My question is: Who is more European- Northern Euros or Southern Euros? Are Northerners (like Danes, Dutch, Nords) really more European than their Southern counterparts? There were inhabitants in the region called Greece and/or Italy since the early Neanderthal period.There were indigenous populations in these regions during the Paleolithic period and when the Neolithics arrived in Europe from Asia Minor around 7000 BC there was an indigenous population present. The people of the South (like any other Euro region) have varying degrees of IE, EHG, WHG, CHG (just like the Northerners) and the variation is based on population settlements. Indo Europeans were no more Euro than Neolithicc farmers they both arrived from outside of Europe and essentially re-populated. There is no historical/genetic proof that NW Euros are more "European" than their Southern neighbors.

[Carpatz]

The concept of Europe was invented by ancient Greeks, so I can't see why Southern Europeans would be less European.

[Morena]

Neither. I consider both equally European with different European inputs. Eventually, someone will say that there is some admixture here or there that negates it, but it wasn't too long ago that those components weren't considered particularly different from Europeans anyway.

[coolfrenchguy]

europe is going until the oural mountain channels on east ,and on west until,UK,ireland,groenland,island on the west-east axis on the north-south axis fennicandinavia until spain greece,cyprus so europe is very large but only if you avoid the non ethno-europeans,after that good luck if you want to back in the past and doing your little nazi brainwanking
i recommand you to back until big bang as is you should pretty sure than you can find than the first hominid is very very hairy,with a very low iq

[coolfrenchguy]

My question is: Who is more European- Northern Euros or Southern Euros? Are Northerners (like Danes, Dutch, Nords) really more European than their Southern counterparts? There were inhabitants in the region called Greece and/or Italy since the early Neanderthal period.There were indigenous populations in these regions during the Paleolithic period and when the Neolithics arrived in Europe from Asia Minor around 7000 BC there was an indigenous population present. The people of the South (like any other Euro region) have varying degrees of IE, EHG, WHG, CHG (just like the Northerners) and the variation is based on population settlements. Indo Europeans were no more Euro than Neolithicc farmers they both arrived from outside of Europe and essentially re-populated. There is no historical/genetic proof that NW Euros are more "European" than their Southern neighbors.

in more serious way if you are really interrested in this way read or watch docs on yves coppens the french anthropologist founder of LUCY

[DarknessWin]

Southern of course , everything created from them while north were full of Barbarians

[Dimitri159]

Well Western culture as we know it was molded by Northern Europeans. The civilization structure may have started in Classical Greece, but their societal customs were very different than ours today. During the Renaissance, Western culture developed tremendously and that led to the Enlightenment period.

Genetically both are within the same basket. The only outliers are (south) Italians, Greeks and Jews. But they too are still within the European cluster.

[JamesBond007]

The heavy hitters of modern European culture were France and Britain then Germany with Italy playing a smaller role. Even Democracy as practiced by the ancient Greeks would not pass muster as Democratic by modern standards. French was the lingua franca of the upper class elites of Europe including the Aristocracy of Russia are one point. The French are not southern European generally speaking.

[catgeorge]

The heavy hitters of modern European culture were France and Britain then Germany with Italy playing a smaller role. Even Democracy as practiced by the ancient Greeks would not pass muster as Democratic by modern standards. French was the lingua franca of the upper class elites of Europe including the Aristocracy of Russia are one point. The French are not southern European generally speaking.

It was the transfer of power and wealth after the fall of Constantinople - that had a grip on power on three continents.

That transfer had a base in literature and culture what the west calls the enlightenment. But even then, West Europe was still 500 years behind in development from its predecessor.

[catgeorge]

Let me be clear I am indeed very happy that transfer went to West Europe and not the East.
But still waiting for West Europe to do something with it instead of killing off pygmies that carry sticks and stones for commercial gain.

Still waiting for the orbit around the planet instead of destruction. Perhaps the transfer went to the wrong people.