"100% Sure R1 Originated in India - N.Rai" - Paper coming soon

**Proto-Shaman** · 02-28-2019, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

**~~Ryuk~~** · 02-28-2019, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Token

Then you should inform yourself better. Indus_Periphery, which fits as the single most important donor to the genepool of modern day South Asians and was in all likelihood a recent immigrant from IVC, had WSHG.

Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 (Indus_Periphery)
P 0.333
0.522 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.478 Han.DG

P 0.275
0.508 Ganj_Dareh_N
0.076 West_Siberia_N
0.416 Onge.DG

Genetic history of South Asia in a nutshell.

Well,Shar-i Sokhta locate in Iran-Afghanistan border and this remain archeologically belong to Jiroft culture.

But,if siberian came to South Afghanistan at bronze age,maybe they also came to Indus area.

Thanks for it.

**~~Ryuk~~** · 02-28-2019, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

WSHG = Neolithic Turkic speakers with 20% Mongo / 80% Euro DNA.

Well,I think close to this.

**Token** · 02-28-2019, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan

WSHG = Neolithic Turkic speakers with 20% Mongo / 80% Euro DNA.

Yes, every fucking thing on earth is Turkic.

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 02-28-2019, 10:40 PM

I thought it was already quite certain that the origin for haplogroup R1 was South Asia or its western neighbouring areas, so what is so ground breaking about this?

**Proto-Shaman** · 02-28-2019, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Token

Yes, every fucking thing on earth is Turkic.

Only Eurasian topics plz.

**Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas** · 02-28-2019, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ice

I was always proud of my ydna (because of its origin in steppe, its special relationship with horse) but if it has its origins in india.. well that will be a game changer. i don't believe or trust eurocentrists (those who claim r1a/r1b to be european), but i'd prefer to be a descendant of an european than an indian

You're R1b and it's origin is still somewhere around the Caspian Sea. It's ancestor R1 wasn't though.

**Imperator Biff** · 02-28-2019, 11:00 PM

R is from P1 which has been found in 30 thousand year old yana ANS samples, but yeah sure it’s from ‘south east asia’ somewhere keep telling yourselves that lol

**Token** · 02-28-2019, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Imperator Biff

R is from P1 which has been found in 30 thousand year old yana ANS samples, but yeah sure it’s from ‘south east asia’ somewhere keep telling yourselves that lol

R* was also found in Eastern Siberia not very far from Yana, R1* will be found somewhere in Siberia.

**Imperator Biff** · 02-28-2019, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Token

R* was also found in Eastern Siberia not very far from Yana, R1* will be found somewhere in Siberia.

Basal P1 has also been found in Ganj_Dareh samples from neolithic Iran along with R2. Easily explained by their ~40% or so ANE admixture. These guys imo probably spread proto-Dravidian dialects into South Asia.