Dalmatian serb Y dna

[Ayetooey]

How big is this sample? Do you know more specific subclades of R1b and R1a results?

I just double checked, with R1A subclades are broken up like this.

R1a> R-M458=4
R1a> R-M417=1
R1a> R-CTS3402=2
R1a> R-YP6098=1
R1a> R-A11460=1

[xripkan]

I just double checked, with R1A subclades are broken up like this.

R1a> R-M458=4
R1a> R-M417=1
R1a> R-CTS3402=2
R1a> R-YP6098=1
R1a> R-A11460=1

All of them under the Slavic branch. No surprise.

[Kamal900]

I believe the I2 haplogroup is Slavic..I1 is very Germanic, I think.

[Ayetooey]

I believe the I2 haplogroup is Slavic..I1 is very Germanic, I think.

I2 haplogroup is Slavic; I1 is generally Germanic; in Dalmatian Serbs it comes from Macur and Drobjnak; two Montenegrin clans who's founders were I1. So the Y dna has a massive founder effect basically; they can all trace it back to the same people.

[Kamal900]

I2 haplogroup is Slavic; I1 is generally Germanic; in Dalmatian Serbs it comes from Macur and Drobjnak; two Montenegrin clans who's founders were I1. So the Y dna has a massive founder effect basically; they can all trace it back to the same people.

[Pribislav]

I2 haplogroup is Slavic; I1 is generally Germanic; in Dalmatian Serbs it comes from Macur and Drobjnak; two Montenegrin clans who's founders were I1. So the Y dna has a massive founder effect basically; they can all trace it back to the same people.

Vast majority of I1 Dalmatian Serbs are Drobnjak I1-P109 and Macura I1-Z63.

There is one guy from Benkovac eho is I1-M227, and one from Knin I1-P109 but he is not related with Drobnjaks.

[Blondie]

Personally i think 24% I1 cannot be true. This is proto-germanic marker, Germans have 16% I1, so dalmatian serbs are closer to proto-germanics than germans? Bullshit.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml

I1 map:



Other thing is 4% N, this is the higest number in the region, so dalmatian serbs are the most finno-ugric population in Balkans and Central Europe? No way...

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Is there any under ''Croatian R1a'' branch ? You know one our little mate Pribislav claim is original Croat marker

[Ayetooey]

Personally i think 24% I1 cannot be true. This is proto-germanic marker, Germans have 16% I1, so dalmatian serbs are closer to proto-germanics than germans? Bullshit.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml

I1 map:



Other thing is 4% N, this is the higest number in the region, so dalmatian serbs are the most finno-ugric population in Balkans and Central Europe? No way...

Serbs from Prijepolje are also 25% I1.

The I1 would have almost no effect autosomally; the I1 in Dalmatian serbs comes from like 2 people, founder of Macur clan and founder of Drobjnak, both from north-west Montenegro where many Dalmatian Serbs have clan origins from; any Germanic autosomal dna would of been bred out along time ago since it has such an extreme founder effect. I1 isn't proto germanic either; it's paleo European. R1b-U106 is proto germanic
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I believe N is higher in Bosnian Serbs; this is only a small sample so N would likely be lower percent with higher sample.

[Pribislav]

Is there any under ''Croatian R1a'' branch ? You know one our little mate Pribislav claim is original Croat marker

Yes.

One Serb from Benkovac and one from Zrmanja which is in border of Dalmatia and Lika carry chakavian R1a-Z280>Y2613.