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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    You forgot to mention Urartians.
    Urartians are a subset of Hurrians.

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    Both Armenians and Assyrians are cool and ancient people, i am sorry for my countrymen to open troll threads like this,

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    Quote Originally Posted by archangel View Post
    Both Armenians and Assyrians are cool and ancient people, i am sorry for my countrymen to open troll threads like this,

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    If you stopped sucking cock, get lost of my thread.

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    If anything Assyrians are more likely to be part Armenian than the reverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    If anything Assyrians are more likely to be part Armenian than the reverse.

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    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aren View Post
    So many false claims in this thread. First of all, most of the averages on Gedmatch are somewhat off. I have collected over 80 Assyrian Gedmatch kits and only one or two score over 50% Caucasus in Dodecad K12b. The Assyrian Caucasus average is around 46-48%. That's why many Western Armenians are close to the (inaccurate)average on Gedmatch.
    Second of all there's considerable difference when it comes to uniparental markers between us and Armenians, they lack as an example several subclades under J1 related to various Semitic migrations to Mespotamia. Other than that, ofc there will be similarites between us that can be explained by ancient shared ancestry rather than intermarriage or assimiliation. Religion has shaped the genetic landcape of Western Asia. The muslims of our area smoothly form a continuity autosomally speaking, just like in most of Europe. Meanwhile the non-Muslim minorities also form a relatively uniform continuity. We Assyrians lie in between the Mandeans and Iraqi Jews of southern Mesopotamia on one hand and the Western Armenians on the other hand. Matching geography pretty well. This has probably nothing to do with intermarriage, as we have had no contact with Mandeans and most Assyrians of Iraq had no contact with Armenians either until very recently.

    As for the Steppe/IE admixture in Armenians I would guess that it ranges from 6-12% depending on what Steppe source we are talking about(Middle-Late Bronze Age or Early Bronze Age).
    Iraqi Jews plot a bit north to the saudi arabia- iraqi border and mandeans plot east to that. In reality, kurdish jews are the closest people to mandeans, however since iraqi jews are around 40% levantine and the rest mesopotamian makes me question the mandean genetic composition since they plot just east to iraqi jews. As for assyrians, their closest population is either azeri jewish or georgian jewish.

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