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    Quote Originally Posted by Karkurdu View Post
    I've reassembled dozens of Armenian samples there plus used the Armenian average of G25's spredsheet for modelling. Where are those studies and Armenian samples you see that score 10% Steppe? You are just full of shit. Why is so hard to accept the truth about yor genetics? Nothing wrong with that.
    Heres Global25 averages for Armenians(theres a limited sample size)

    [1] "distance%=1.8265"

    Armenian

    Seh_Gabi_ChL,45.2
    Barcin_N,22.8
    CHG,13%
    Levant_N,10.2
    Yamnaya_Kalmykia,8.8

    Who is full of shit now? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsuk View Post
    I have the GEDmatch IDs of dozens of Armenians. All of them get Assyrians as the closest populations because there is something fishy about the Armenian average on GEDmatch. Do you want me to post their results?

    Greek_Pontus, Turk_Trabzon, Laz and Georgian are way above your league. You are basically Indo-European speaking Assyrians.
    Depends on which calculators you use. For every one you show that gets an Assyrian as a top match, I can show you 3 that dont. Lol Pontians and Trabzonians are essentially Hellenized and Turkified Armenians and they're "out of our league". You must be Karakrakrkudukulu's troll account

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Heres Global25 averages for Armenians(theres a limited sample size)

    [1] "distance%=1.8265"

    Armenian

    Seh_Gabi_ChL,45.2
    Barcin_N,22.8
    CHG,13%
    Levant_N,10.2
    Yamnaya_Kalmykia,8.8

    Who is full of shit now? Lol
    LeL. Where the hell did you get this exactly? Show us the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karkurdu View Post
    LeL. Where the hell did you get this exactly? Show us the source.
    Global25. Now fuck off troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Global25. Now fuck off troll.
    More like you pulled that out of your ass. No link, no SS. Not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsuk View Post
    Inaccurate proxies for pre-IE Armenia.

    It takes an IQ of 60 to get my point. There are pre-Indo-European Early Bronze Age samples (Kura-Araxes) from Armenia and they are more northern than modern Armenians. Why don't you use Armenia_EBA in your models? Armenians do not even descend fully from Bronze Age natives of the region, they have misterious Levantine-like ancestry.

    Kura-Araxes (non IE Bronze Age people) are more Yamnaya shifted than Armenians.
    Inaccurate proxies? Are you braindead? These are all the components in which modern day Armenians are comprised of lol. What's mysterious about scoring 10% Levant_N?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsuk View Post
    No, they are not. Their ancestors were Zan-speakers. They are basically slightly Anatolia_Neolithic shifted Lazes from a genetic point of view.

    But you are Indo-Europeanized Assyrians. Armeanians are closer to Assyrians than to anyone else.
    Nah. All R1b Armenians descend directly from PIE steppe men and that haplogroup is pretty common in Armenia.

    Checked Eupedia and R1b is 30% in Armenia, highest single marker and much more than Turkic haplogroups among Turks. Lmao
    another 5% of Amernians are R1a so 35% of PIE haplogroups total

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsuk View Post
    No, they are not. Their ancestors were Zan-speakers. They are basically slightly Anatolia_Neolithic shifted Lazes from a genetic point of view.

    But you are Indo-Europeanized Assyrians. Armeanians are closer to Assyrians than to anyone else.
    Run any Trabzon Turk or Pontian calculator and I promise you that Armenian is the first thing they are going to get. I find it funny how you keep repeating the latter claim yet dont realize that Assyrians are actually more northern shifted than their Mesopotamian counterparts. You're also factually wrong either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Heres Global25 averages for Armenians(theres a limited sample size)

    [1] "distance%=1.8265"

    Armenian

    Seh_Gabi_ChL,45.2
    Barcin_N,22.8
    CHG,13%
    Levant_N,10.2
    Yamnaya_Kalmykia,8.8

    Who is full of shit now? Lol
    Here is a better fit for you with Yamnaya Kalmykia my dude

    "sample": "Armenian:Average",

    "fit": 1.5519

    "Assyrian_Averaged": 84.17

    "Kura-Araxes_Kaps_Averaged": 15.83

    "Yamnaya_Kalmykia_Averaged": 0

    "closestDistances"

    "Assyrian_Averaged:Averaged: 1.928832

    "Kura-Araxes_Kaps_Averaged:Averaged: 5.541335

    "Yamnaya_Kalmykia_Averaged:Averaged: 23.297788

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