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    Default Morlach Stećci of Western Balkans

    The signature of Vlachs (Aromanians) on petroglyphs may be seen on several tombstones.The most important material heritage of Vlachs in Western Balkans are the necropolises with petroglyphs. The Vlach tombstones with petroglyphs appeared in the 12th century, and the apparition ceased during the Ottoman occupation in the 16th century. Marian Wenzel wrote that the tombstones with petroglyphs „were initially erected by feudal aristocracy, and that the custom was later adopted and the decoration much elaborated by certain groups known as Vlachs who were organized on a “cătun”, (small village in Romanian and Albanian), on a tribal, non- feudal basis.”( Marian Wenzel, “Bosnian and Herzegovinian Tombstobes-Who Made Them and Why?” Sudost-Forschungen 21 (1962): 102-143)

    Stećak (Cyrillic: Стећак, [stetɕak]; plural: Stećci, Стећци, [stetɕtsi]) is the name for monumental medieval tombstones that lie scattered across Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the border parts of Croatia, Montenegro and Serbia. An estimated 60,000 are found within the borders of modern Bosnia and Herzegovina and the rest of 10,000 are found in what are today Croatia (4,400), Montenegro (3,500), and Serbia (2,100), at more than 3,300 odd sites with over 90% in poor condition.



    More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ste%C4%87ak


    Approximate position of Stari vlah ,Romanija, and the space of Vlach necropolises (dashed line)

    John Fine wrote that the Vlachs controlled the carrying trade and the protection of caravans from brigands and they became extremely rich and came to dominate Zeta (Montenegro) and Hum (Zachlumia, today in Herzegovina).(John V. A. Fine, The Late Medieval Balkans: A Critical Survey from the Late Twelfth Century, (Michigan: University of Michigan Press, 1994), p.19.))


    Transhumance routes in Western Balkans. Source: Marcovic, 1971

    Maximilian Hartmuth considers that there are connections between transportation activities of the Vlachs and the apparition and the decay of the Vlach necropolises(Maximilian Hartmuth, ”Mineral Exploitation and Artistic Production in the Balkans after 1250”, In: Ottoman Metalwork in the Balkans and in Hungary. Hrsg. Ibolya Gerelyes & Maximilian Hartmuth. (Budapest: Hungarian National Museum, 2015), 97-110.).

    Research on skeletons from several gravestones has shown a Vlachian origin(Mužić, Ivan (2009). "Vlasi i starobalkanska pretkršćanska simbolika jelena na stećcima". Starohrvatska prosvjeta (in Croatian). Split: Museum of Croatian Archaeological Monuments. III (36): 323).

    Tony Fabjancic wrote that Radimlja necropolis in Herzegovina belonged to a Vlach family called Miloradovic.(Tony Fabjancic, Bosnia: in the Footsteps of Gavrilo Princip, Edmonton, Canada: University of Alberta Press, 2010, p.125)

    Fig shows petroglyphs of medieval Vlachs (Aromanians) wearing their traditional apparel in Radimlja, Herzegovina. Similarly to the medieval petroglyphs, Aromanians wear kilts.


    Marian Wenzel wrote that the Romanians/Vlachs of North East of Serbia “still perform “hora” funerary dance (kolo in Serbian) in which three female dancers carry bunches of flowers, while the leader carries a sword, which corresponds to some petroglyphs with hora depicted on some funerary monuments. This particular dance is believed to serve as a soul’s guide to the other world.”Elizabeth Wayland Barber approached the petroglyphs with dancers with flowers and wrote: "The parallels between (Romanian/Vlach) dancers from Duboka in Timok and the depictions on medieval funerary stecci are far too close for accident.” She also made a comparison between male dancers wielding swords from petroglyphs and the Romanian dance“Căluşari”.

    Fig Funerary “hora” on petroglyph(left) and the skectch made by Wenzel (right)




    Herzegovina. Map of medieval Vlach petroglyphs with „hora” dance (source: Marian Wenzel)



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    The intangible heritage of Vlachs from Western balkans refers mainly to folklore. It is the case of the Vlach/Morlach folklore in Bosnia and Croatia. A ballad of Vlachs/Morlachs called “Hasanaginica” was hijacked by Croatian and Bosnian nationalist writers who deny the Vlach origin of the ballad. Alberto Fortis, an italian naturalist and cartographer travelled in Dalmatia and wrote Viaggio in Dalmazia (Travels into Dalmatia), published in 1774. The book depicted "Morlachia", the rural Dalmatia and the Morlachs and translated in Italian a Morlach ballad called "Hasanaginica". Fortis wrote that the Morlachs preserved their old customs and clothes and call themselves Vlachs. He also published several specimens of Morlach songs. Viaggio in Dalmazia played an important role in bringing the Morlachian folklore to the attention of Europe during the rise of Romantic notions about folklore.Prosper Mérimée wrote“La Guzla” (single- INTERNATIONAL SCIENTIFIC CONFERENCE CULTURAL HERITAGE: RESEARCH, VALORIZATION, PROMOTION (10TH Edition) a collection of alleged Morlachian poems, being strongly influenced by Fortis. However he never visited Dalmatia.


    The Vlach Church of Cetinje

    According to a historical tradition in Montenegro, the Vlachs are considered to be the builders of the church of Vlaška Crkva (“The VlachChurch”) in Cetinje



    The church was built around 1450 on the site of Bogumils' necropolis, which had around 150 stećci (monumental, ornate tombstones).This church received its name for the Vlahs who guarded the cattle of Ivan Crnojević and built the church around 1450.
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    Morlachs aren't Aromanians neither any Latin speakers.

    Morlach was a nickname for Serbs and Croatians from hintherland of eastern Adriatic coast used by Venetians. Like nickname for Germans is Krauts or Frogs for Italians.

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    Dinaric Slavs are not related with Aromanians in y dna neither autosomally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Morlachs aren't Aromanians neither any Latin speakers.

    Morlach was a nickname for Serbs and Croatians from hintherland of eastern Adriatic coast used by Venetians. Like nickname for Germans is Krauts or Frogs for Italians.
    Original morlach's were latin speakers, they got assimilated after XVI century.We got testimonies they spoke a romance language,we have studies showing that the slavic lexicon where morlachs lived has romance words in it, we have vlach sounding toponyms and the stecci show it clearly.The vlach population of Yugoslavia was of aromanian origin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Dinaric Slavs are not related with Aromanians in y dna neither autosomally.
    And who said they are related with aromanians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncelSlayer View Post
    Original morlach's were latin speakers, they got assimilated after XVI century.We got testimonies they spoke a romance language,we have studies showing that the slavic lexicon where morlachs lived has romance words in it, we have vlach sounding toponyms and the stecci show it clearly.The vlach population of Yugoslavia was of aromanian origin.
    Aromanians are pred. eastern R1b and J2b2 people.

    R1b is only 2-3% in Dinaric Alps, and J2b2 almost does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Aromanians are pred. eastern R1b and J2b2 people.

    R1b is only 2-3% in Dinaric Alps, and J2b2 almost does not exist.
    It is pointless to look at today aromanian's ydna because they got assimilated, we gotta unburry medieval vlach tombs.Aromanians have the ydna of their host nation.I'm not saying today people from Dinaric alps have morlach origin anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Aromanians are pred. eastern R1b and J2b2 people.

    R1b is only 2-3% in Dinaric Alps, and J2b2 almost does not exist.
    Dalmatian Serbs have 3% R1b and Herzegovinian Serbs 5% (both pred. U152).

    Dalmatian Serbs are 0% J2b2, and Herzegovinian 0.23%.

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    Those monuments are legacy of invader Slavs and they have typical Aryan symbols like Swastika which was often used by Slavs and other Indo-Europeans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Those monuments are legacy of invader Slavs and they have typical Aryan symbols like Swastika which was often used by Slavs and other Indo-Europeans.

    These tombs were built in 12th century, the swastika was already spread throughout Eurasia for thousands of years before that

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ste%C4%87ak#Vlachs

    There are entire books written about the symbols where they are explained in detail

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    My ancestors arrived to Dalmatia in late 17th century from Western Bosnia.
    Venetians sented "Morlach" troops from Ravni Kotari (hinterland of Zadar) to burn agriculture fields of my ancestors in Western Bosnia and forced them on migration. Leaders of "Morlach" troops were Serb Zaviša Janković and Croatian Franjo Posedarski.
    Zaviša Janković was brother of Stojan Janković https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Janković

    Name Zaviša (Zawisza) in pan-Slavic, quite common among Poles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zawisza

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