Bronze Age Bulgarian R1a-Z93

[Ayetooey]

You will match a monkey if you adjust a lower snp

Take it to 25 SNP and one could probably match an Apple genetically.

I think 1CM and default SNP is the best way to check against these ancient samples tbh; lowering the SNP is just for fun.

[Proto-Shaman]

He is probably the first wave of Thraco-Cimmerians from the Srubna culture, see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thraco-Cimmerian

A recent DNA analysis of three Cimmerians indicate "the appearance of East Asian haplogroups in the steppe populations might be associated with the Iron Age nomads, starting with the Cimmerians."[29] The authors found it "noteworthy that the oldest of the Cimmerians studied here (cim357) carried almost equal proportions of Asian and West Eurasian components, resembling the Pazyryks, Aldy-Bel, and Iron Age individuals from Russia and Kazakhstan. The second oldest Cimmerian (cim358) was also the only one with both uniparental markers pointing toward East Asia. The Q1* Y chromosome sublineage of Q-M242 is widespread among Asians and Native Americans and is thought to have originated in the Altai Mountains. It has previously been identified in numerous ancient samples from Siberia, the Americas, and in representatives of the Siberian Bronze Age and nomadic populations. This is the first indication that Cimmerians did not originate in the PCS region but were nomads tracing their origin to the Far East."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimmerians#Genetics

[Proto-Shaman]

R1a-Z93, Turanid steppe DNA.

Árpad dynasty of Hungary = R1a-Z93

Osman dynasty of Anatolian Turkey = R1a-Z93

Now this Turkic Bulgar = R1a-Z93

Truly an amazing time of science in the history of steppe peoples.

Khazars and Gokturks were also Z93.

In TOTAL: 5 different historical Turkic peoples with R1a Z93 + Iron Age Scytho-Turanid Z93 steppe samples + predominant distribution of Z93 among modern Turkics. And not even 1 historical Indo-Iranian tribe with R1a.

BUT HEY WE ARE STILL INDO-EUROPEAN

Even Attila, the Turk within, with 1000 Turkic relatives, was INDO-EUROPEAN

nice logic, as always

[lonewolfcypriot]

So the Hypoboreans were real, this guy is clearly one of them.

[Arhat]

Khazars and Gokturks were also Z93.

In TOTAL: 5 different historical Turkic peoples with R1a Z93 + Iron Age Scytho-Turanid Z93 steppe DNA samples + predominant distribution of Z93 among modern Turkics. And not even 1 historical Indo-Iranian tribe with R1a.

BUT HEY WE ARE STILL INDO-EUROPEAN

Even Attila, the Turk within, with 1000 Turkic relatives, was INDO-EUROPEAN

nice logic, as always

My R1a-Z93 line was found in Sredny Stog and this people were just a steppe+ EEF mix without anything turkic related. Sorry but R1a-Z93 is just an eastern Corded Ware/Sredny Stog line which migrated from the Middle Dnjepr region to Central Russia (Fatyanovo-Balanovo/Abashevo) and from there they entered the Ural region where they mixed with Poltavka tribes and created the Sintashta/Andronovo culture.

[Bosniensis]

I've just noticed something:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.52
2 Eastern_Euro 19.23
3 Baltic 13.65
4 Atlantic 13.45
5 West_Asian 12.95
6 South_Asian 3.15
7 Amerindian 2.05

This Bronze Bulgarian doesn't have Eastern Mediterranean or Western Mediterranean at all

If we assume this sample is 4500 years old then it makes sense.

Cause Eastern and Western Mediterranean people were still in Anatolia at that time.

[War Chef]

If we assume this sample is 4500 years old then it makes sense.

Cause Eastern and Western Mediterranean people were still in Anatolia at that time.

Ummm no. At this time, farming was well-established in Bulgaria and Balkan-farmers even made a base in central Europe (LBK culture).

This man has no west+east Mediteranean because he is a direct transplant from the Srubna culture and had yet to find any Sardinian-like women to breed with.

[Bosniensis]

I've just noticed something:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.52
2 Eastern_Euro 19.23
3 Baltic 13.65
4 Atlantic 13.45
5 West_Asian 12.95
6 South_Asian 3.15
7 Amerindian 2.05

This Bronze Bulgarian doesn't have Eastern Mediterranean or Western Mediterranean at all

If we assume this sample is 4500 years old then it makes sense.

Cause Eastern and Western Mediterranean people were still in Anatolia at that time.

COMPARISON Bulgarian Bronze vs Dalmatian Bronze

Dalmatian "Roman" (later Bronze Age sample)

-> Less North Sea
-> West and East Med present (Romans)
-> Double Atlantic (Northern Italian connection)
-> West Asian Similar (lydian connection)
-> Baltic less double
-> Non-existent Eastern Euro

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.44 (Northern Italian Celtic)
2 West_Med 22.65 (Roman)
3 Atlantic 22.42 (Northern Italian Celtic)
4 East_Med 15.28 (Roman)
5 West_Asian 8.93 (Ancient Anatolian pre-European Migration leftover)
6 Baltic 4.91
7 Eastern_Euro 1.65
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Amerindian 0.01

Modern Serbian

1 Baltic 17.96
2 North_Sea 16.35
3 Atlantic 15.67
4 Eastern_Euro 13.32
5 West_Med 12.61
6 East_Med 11.78
7 West_Asian 8.06


To me modern Serbian is basically MIX of Bulgarian Bronze Age + Roman Late Bronze Age.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

There were no Romans in Dalmatia in late Bronze Age.

[Bosniensis]

There were no Romans in Dalmatia in late Bronze Age.

I meant people out of whom Romans emerged... eventually.. maybe Etruscan like people

Etruscan civilization existed in 1000 B.C. that's before Iron Age or Early Iron Age.

Those people in Dalmatia might have been related to them .