Overseas Portugal in pictures and videos/O Portugal ultramarino em fotografias e vídeos

[Rouxinol]

These are the best videos about the subject from the series "Do Outro Lado do Tempo", it would be worth it if you edited the OP to include them

Thanks. I can no longer edit the OP though. The edit tool is only available for a limited time.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Lol, it looked very developed to an african country, much more than I expected. Way more weathier than todays Maputo. Also, many whites on the street, what was the peak of white population in Africa/Angola/Moçambique? 15%?

Not that much.

At the peak in 1974/75 (just before starting the decolonization) there was:
- around 350K white Portuguese in Angola for a total pop. of 6.5M, so just a bit over than 5%.
- around 200-250K in Mozambique for a total pop. of 10M, nearly 2%.

On those videos I posted you can see many whites because the Portuguese population was mostly concentrated on the cities, so there the percentage was MUCH higher (even the majority in some cities).

[Sebastianus Rex]

Thanks. I can no longer edit the OP though. The edit tool is only available for a limited time.

Perhaps Damião de Goes can do it if we ask him.

[Marco94]

Portuguese colonies look very developed. Those Africans nations ruined themselves when they became independent and administered by their own people. They certainly deserve themselves, though.

[Rouxinol]

Perhaps Damião de Goes can do it if we ask him.

The Mozambique video on post #1 and Angola’s on post #16. Or else create a new OP introducing those two videos, followed by mine.

[Sebastianus Rex]

The Mozambique video on post #1 and Angola’s on post #16. Or else create a new OP introducing those two videos, followed by mine.

It's good then, not worth making another thread, let's concentrate on this thread.

[Cernunnos]

Not that much.

At the peak in 1974/75 (just before starting the decolonization) there was:
- around 350K white Portuguese in Angola for a total pop. of 6.5M, so just a bit over than 5%.
- around 200-250K in Mozambique for a total pop. of 10M, nearly 2%.

On those videos I posted you can see many whites because the Portuguese population was mostly concentrated on the cities, so there the percentage was MUCH higher (even the majority in some cities).

Acho que eram no mínimo 500 000 Portugueses em Angola, pelos registos do governo do PREC entre 1974 e 1976, 1 milhão de Portugueses regressaram a Portugal vindos de África, entre eles uma família que já lá estava bem antes dos anos 60, minha avó nasceu lá e tudo. Custou-lhe muito mais a ela do que a maioria dos que lá estavam a uma dúzia ou dezena de anos. Ela era uma autêntica Luso Angolana. Não te esqueças que também havia lá muito militar por lá que viveu e até procriou com a população local.

Até os colonizadores tiveram filhos mulatos, conheço alguns velhos que deixaram filhos e filhas em Angola pois já tinham famílias europeias/brancas.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Not that much.

At the peak in 1974/75 (just before starting the decolonization) there was:
- around 350K white Portuguese in Angola for a total pop. of 6.5M, so just a bit over than 5%.
- around 200-250K in Mozambique for a total pop. of 10M, nearly 2%.

On those videos I posted you can see many whites because the Portuguese population was mostly concentrated on the cities, so there the percentage was MUCH higher (even the majority in some cities).

Thanks for the number. The videos look like the neighborhood is majority white and have many similarities with videos of middle and high class parts of Havana and Rio de Janeiro in 1950. Of course they filmed the most elite parts of the city where portuguese settlers where living in, but lol the life of those families looked amazing. If I had to choose between Lisbon and Maputo at this time, I would prefer to be a rich portuguese settler in Maputo and than immigrate to South Africa in 1975 and than immigrate to Australia in 2000.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Acho que eram no mínimo 500 000 Portugueses em Angola, pelos registos do governo do PREC entre 1974 e 1976, 1 milhão de Portugueses regressaram a Portugal vindos de África, entre eles uma família que já lá estava bem antes dos anos 60, minha avó nasceu lá e tudo. Custou-lhe muito mais a ela do que a maioria dos que lá estavam a uma dúzia ou dezena de anos. Ela era uma autêntica Luso Angolana. Não te esqueças que também havia lá muito militar por lá que viveu e até procriou com a população local.

Até os colonizadores tiveram filhos mulatos, conheço alguns velhos que deixaram filhos e filhas em Angola pois já tinham famílias europeias/brancas.

I really would not be surprised if Angola had 0.5 milion white or even a bit over.


I always knew Angola had more portugueses than the far Moçambique, so I thought Luanda was always more developed and modern than Maputo. But after look at those pictures, how Maputo was richer, more beautiful and more modern than Luanda in the past.

Anyway, both countries would be way better if their portuguese white minorities of 5%/10% had not run out. Now they fucked with eveything and whites disappeared. Luanda after the white flight, has a lot of favelas, but at least has a lot of modern things and dont look so backwards. Its probably one of the most advanced african capitols.
But Maputo today, lol the city now is very backwards, have nothing to be pride and its full of favelas. Maputo today is a big slum.

Remeber both countries lost 1 milion people on huge civil wars and both become communist.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Portuguese colonies look very developed. Those Africans nations ruined themselves when they became independent and administered by their own people. They certainly deserve themselves, though.

They could be at South African level today or even better. I think the Civil Wars destroyed many things portugueses built there. I imagine how much portuguese investments were lost on those countries, infraestructure, malls, airports, banks, theatres, hotels, wharfs, eletric usines, and thousands of nice houses/apartments of portuguese settlers left behind when they left very fastly and desesperated.