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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasconcelos View Post
    Stick with K13 and K15 then, those other PCAs are all a bit on the meh side (and mytrueancestry is a ripoff). Or just man up and get G25
    How is G25 any different from other calculators, and is it also compatible for someone from North Africa?

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    I think it's time for the Iberians and the Celtiberians to come into play in MyTrueAncestry. Roman Hispania or Galo Roman can not be calling all the time and in all times the Iberians, Celtiberians, Tartessos e.t.c.









    These two maps are my genetic match with people of today by mitochondrial DNA as can be seen.




    Manchester, Fermanagh, Olite, Azpetia, Majones, Cádiz province, and the other Spaniard leaves Granada but I spoke with her and her most remote ancestress was from the province of Seville.
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamm View Post
    How is G25 any different from other calculators, and is it also compatible for someone from North Africa?
    G25 was built with many more and more varied references, so its coordinates and subsequent models are a lot more reliable than any of the older calcs, including for non-Europeans. Eurogenes K13 and K15 were created by the same person, but some 5 years ago, they are not useless but they are clearly outdated since G25 was released. The creator (David) hasn't bothered with any other PCA since then.

    K13/15 still have some use, such as comparing components and see how one sample varies in comparison to others (or their ethnic group), but that's about it.

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    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Your relatives from Ancient Times (you share identified DNA segments)

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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    So there are Andalusians who have a very small % of north African blood, i thought most of you guys would score near the 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lomaioral View Post
    So there are Andalusians who have a very small % of north African blood, i thought most of you guys would score near the 10%.
    African contacts are older than previously thought: The study found, at sites in Madrid and Cádiz, a couple of individuals with African descent who lived in the Peninsula about 4,000 years ago. These are sporadic contacts, but show that there was an African presence long before the arrival of Muslims on the Peninsula in the 8th century. The scientists also detected a gene flow from North Africa to the Southeast of the Peninsula in Punic and Roman times.

    Romans, Greeks, Phoenicians, Visigoths and Muslims: Based on the analysis of 24 individuals from the Greek colony of Empúries, founded between the 600s and the late-Roman period in present-day Catalonia, scientists have concluded that at the beginning of The Middle Age of at least a quarter of Iberian ancestry had been replaced by new flows of population from the Eastern Mediterranean (Romans, Greeks and Phoenicians). The researchers also analyzed two individuals of Visigothic origin at a site in Girona and several of Muslim origin in Granada, Valencia, Castellón and Vinaròs. These ‘ancient Iberians’ showed a North African genetic component of almost 50%, while in the current population it is 5%. “This North African ancestry was almost completely eliminated during the Reconquista and the subsequent expulsion of the Moors”, says Carles Lalueza-Fox, one of the directors of the study at the IBE.

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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lomaioral View Post
    So there are Andalusians who have a very small % of north African blood, i thought most of you guys would score near the 10%.
    You should know that moriscos were expelled and that andalusia was repopulated by northern iberians

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    Family Finder gives me 4% and for example in this calculator I get these results 8`08%

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    I know that, but i thought the north African ancestry would be more homogeneous near the 10%, since there's a difference in % from north to south with the south having more. And as is known the average north African ancestry in the studies ranges from 5% to 7%

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