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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego Garcia View Post
    Lo que me he reído cuando le han preguntado por Murcia, el entrevistador estaba pensando: cabrón, no te traemos más.

    Hay que entrevistar más a octogenarios, no se cortan un pelo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Lo que me he reído cuando le han preguntado por Murcia, el entrevistador estaba pensando: cabrón, no te traemos más.

    Hay que entrevistar más a octogenarios, no se cortan un pelo.

    No se cortaba nunca, mucho menos cuando viejo, se jactaba de decir siempre la verdad, un verdadero genio de su época, pero desgraciadamente matado socialmente por los poderes de su tiempo, abandonado a un total ostracismo desde la llamada Transición. Aunque no esté de acuerdo con alguno de sus ideas (quizá porque no esté preparado para entenderlas), me encanta escucharlo y leerlo. Los octogenarios como bien dices ya no se cortan en decir lo que piensan, es cierto.

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    Spain turns south: 22 reasons why Andalusia is the community of the future

    Is the Madrid-Basque Country-Catalonia axis moving south? Andalusia stands out in all areas and is consolidating its position as the perfect travel companion for Madrid.

    24 julio, 2021 01:25

    Andalusia has been for the last forty years the Spanish China. A giant held down by an obsolete ideology and weighed down by a corrosive structural corruption. The doubt has never been whether the Andalusian potential would still be there when the PSOE was ousted from power, but whether the damage caused to the Andalusian institutional and business structure would prevent the region from getting back on its feet after being freed from its chains.

    2. Barely two and a half years have been enough to dispel any doubts in this regard. In the third quarter of 2019, only one year after the arrival of PP and Ciudadanos to the Junta, the Andalusian GDP registered a rise of 2.1% year-on-year. A 0.8% more than that of the European Union as a whole (1.3%). A second fact: in the midst of the pandemic, Andalusia and Madrid were the only two Spanish communities capable of creating net employment after the second wave of Covid-19.

    3. For four decades, the thesis of Andalusian structural underdevelopment was wielded by its main leaders as a gypsy curse that could only be overcome with welfare, paternalism and a lot of television folklore. "What are we going to do? Andalusians are like that, they are hopeless" was the underlying message with which the PSOE justified the fact that all the indicators of its management (health, education, unemployment, industry) showed African figures after more than three decades of absolute hegemony in the community.

    4. According to this thesis, Andalusia's backwardness was not conjunctural, but structural, and only socialism could alleviate the situation to some extent by creating a client regime in the region that would alleviate, but not solve, the problem: arsaperonismo. Socialism's contempt for its citizens, which adopted all the clichés of the most xenophobic Catalan nationalism about the Andalusians, also concealed the main lesson taught by history: Andalusia has historically been one of the main economic and cultural engines of Spain.

    5. En 1860, el PIB andaluz era el mayor de España y su renta per cápita era superior a la vasca, casi igual que la catalana (una Cataluña dopada por los réditos que le proporcionaba el control del negocio del esclavismo en Cuba) y sólo inferior a la madrileña.

    6. Culturally, from the 15th century onwards, Andalusia was a century ahead of the rest of the country and became an artistic reference imitated throughout Europe thanks to the Granada school and, above all, the Sevillian school, to which names such as Velázquez, Zurbarán and Murillo belong. No other school or particular artistic movement from any other Spanish region has ever again had the international influence that Andalusia had until well into the 18th century. Probably only the School of Salamanca in its field, the economic, can be equated in international influence to the Andalusian art of the Golden Age.

    7. The Spanish Golden Age, which if it had taken place in Italy, France or Germany would be praised as the trigger of the modern world as we know it today, cannot be understood without the Andalusian and Castilian leadership. It can, however, be understood without Catalonia, the Basque Country and the rest of Spain's supposed historical nationalities that today look to the south with disdain despite their historical irrelevance in the cultural field.

    8. But back to 2021. What is already known as the Andalusian miracle, by the most enthusiastic, and as the Andalusian way, by the most cautious, has four key ingredients.

    9. The first is the lowering of taxes. Such as that of the 99% rebate on Inheritance and Gift Tax. Or like the reduction in the autonomous community's personal income tax bracket. The reduction has been accompanied, as has already happened in Madrid, by an increase in revenue (550 million euros more in 2019 compared to 2018).

    10. Second, the reduction of administrative obstacles. The Junta has created a team known as the Project Accelerator Unit that helps entrepreneurs to start up their projects by alleviating the bureaucratic torment they are forced to go through in other Spanish communities. Among other significant data, Andalusia is already Spain's leader in the number of self-employed.

    11. Third, the care and improvement of essential public services. That is, those pertaining to health, education and social services. But not those whose sole objective is the consolidation of a clientelism that guarantees in aeternum the electoral hegemony of a particular party.

    12. The fourth, a political climate less tense than in the rest of the country and far removed from the ideological battles that weigh down the communities infected by nationalist populism (Catalonia, the Basque Country, Valencia, the Balearic Islands, Asturias and Galicia). Proof of this is this news published by EL ESPAÑOL this Friday.

    13. The financial and industrial axis that goes from Madrid to the Basque Country and Catalonia is not an inescapable standard equipment of the Spain of the 21st century. This axis can (and should) be oriented towards the south. Towards Andalusia and the Levant, if Valencia manages to get out of that cultural and economic dead end that is the identity nationalism to which Ximo Puig has condemned it.

    14. The awakening of Andalusia is not an empty slogan. Google has chosen Andalusia as the headquarters of its new European R&D&I center. Renault has decided that Andalusia will lead its decarbonization project. An Andalusian capital will be part of the group of seven European cities chosen by Vodafone to set up its research centers. Rovi will set up its heparin manufacturing plant and Covid vaccine production plant in Andalusia. Ericsson, Atlantic Cooper, the Cosentino Group and many other international companies are already developing projects in Andalusia.

    15. Just ten years ago, these projects would almost certainly have been developed in Catalonia, the Basque Country or Madrid. Today they have been taken over by Andalusia.

    16. No other Spanish city has the potential to fill the void left (by choice) by Barcelona as Spain's second city. Malaga will lead growth in Andalusia this year with a GDP increase of between 4.4 and 7.5% after a very tough 2020 in which the city was affected by the decline in tourism caused by the Covid-19 epidemic.

    17. In 1950, Malaga represented 12% of the Andalusian economy. Today it represents 21% and growing. Part of the blame lies with the dynamism of the city in the high-tech sector, as well as in the high and medium-high.

    18. The University of Malaga (UMA) and the improvement of infrastructures and cultural facilities (Malaga is the Spanish city with more museums in relation to its number of inhabitants) have contributed to position the city as one of the most attractive destinations in Spain for qualified professionals, freelancers and families. Previously, that position was undisputedly held by a Barcelona in decline, which very few Spaniards choose today as their preferred living and professional destination.

    19. Another key factor in Andalusia's leap forward is its commitment to internationalization. Andalusia has already been the leader in exports in the agri-food and beverage sector during the first quarter of 2021. Other Andalusian economic sectors are expected to join the leading group in the coming years.

    20. Beyond the folkloric and culturally fascinating, but basically irrelevant, Andalusia sold by the PSOE for years lies the region with the greatest growth potential in all of Spain and, perhaps, in Europe. And not only as a possible engine of the Spanish economy, but also as a natural Spanish and European bridge to Africa and Latin America.

    21. If Andalusia receives from the central government just a small part of the stimulus that the Basque Country and Catalonia have received over the last 100 years, it will undoubtedly become Madrid's traveling companion as the engine of the Spanish economy for several decades to come. And with infinitely better results, since this condition of economic engine will not be used by the local elites for the destruction of constitutional democracy and the rupture of the country, but for the benefit of all Spaniards.

    22. And of Cadizfornia, that is, the future Spanish California, I can tell you little that I have not already told you. Let's just say that almost everything I say in this list is applicable, only with slight nuances, to the rest of Andalusia.


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    @Diego García

    Cuánto tiempo llevas en España, siempre has vivido en la misma zona, no te lo tomes a mal, es una simple pregunta. Que aquí está la gente que vamos salta a la mínima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    @Diego García

    Cuánto tiempo llevas en España, siempre has vivido en la misma zona, no te lo tomes a mal, es una simple pregunta. Que aquí está la gente que vamos salta a la mínima.
    Excepto quizá un par de años que he estado fuera sobre todo por motivos de estudio, desde que nací en Málaga. Así como mis padres, mis abuelos, mis bisabuelos, mis tatarabuelos, etc. etc., lo mismo, hasta llegar quizá a los ancestros que bajaron desde más arriba hasta aquí, como la inmensa mayoría de los malagueños y demás andaluces.

    Más o menos he vivido siempre en la misma área geográfica de Málaga, pero también en otras, por motivos de estudio o de trabajo. También he vivido en otras provincias andaluzas y no andaluzas, por motivos laborales también.

    Pero, dime, por curiosidad, ¿cuál es el motivo que te lleva a preguntármelo? Sé honesto. Te prometo no tomármelo a mal.

    NB: Permíteme que no te diga cuánto tiempo exactamente, o sea, mi edad. Pero es que da mala suerte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego Garcia View Post
    Excepto quizá un par de años que he estado fuera sobre todo por motivos de estudio, desde que nací en Málaga. Así como mis padres, mis abuelos, mis bisabuelos, mis tatarabuelos, etc. etc., lo mismo, hasta llegar quizá a los ancestros que bajaron desde más arriba hasta aquí, como la inmensa mayoría de los malagueños y demás andaluces.

    Más o menos he vivido siempre en la misma área geográfica de Málaga, pero también en otras, por motivos de estudio o de trabajo. También he vivido en otras provincias andaluzas y no andaluzas, por motivos laborales también.

    Pero, dime, por curiosidad, ¿cuál es el motivo que te lleva a preguntármelo? Sé honesto. Te prometo no tomármelo a mal.

    NB: Permíteme que no te diga cuánto tiempo exactamente, o sea, mi edad. Pero es que da mala suerte.
    Por curiosidad, no te preocupes, no prejuzgo, juzgo directamente, es broma, no te lo vayas a creer.

    Te veía un poquillo escanciadillo y dígome: a ver si se nos va a venir abajo. Aquí somos dos españoles y medio, la encrucijada en la que estamos, no sabía que España despertaba tantas pasiones y envidias y todos la deseaban de esa manera tan salvaje, es tremendo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
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    Cuánto tiempo llevas en España, siempre has vivido en la misma zona, no te lo tomes a mal, es una simple pregunta. Que aquí está la gente que vamos salta a la mínima.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Por curiosidad, no te preocupes, no prejuzgo, juzgo directamente, es broma, no te lo vayas a creer.

    Te veía un poquillo escanciadillo y dígome: a ver si se nos va a venir abajo. Aquí somos dos españoles y medio, la encrucijada en la que estamos, no sabía que España despertaba tantas pasiones y envidias y todos la deseaban de esa manera tan salvaje, es tremendo.

    Bueno, tú me vas a perdonar, porque no es con malas intenciones, pero no te llego a comprender bien. ¿Por qué me preguntas que cuánto tiempo llevo aquí en España?, que era tu pregunta principal.

    Sé honesto, hombre, de verdad que no te cortes, y además no cuesta tanto. Ya te he prometido que no me voy a rebotar, tranquilo.

    Por otro lado, no entiendo lo de "escanciadillo", no sé lo que significa. ¿Me lo podrías aclarar?

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