What do french think about general Pétain?

[Rumata]

Most french people won't admit this but if petain didnt suck german cock, german troops would suck all blood of france. there is a big difference between german treatment of slavs and french.

The German troops had a limit of their capabilities. So if their concentration in the western front increased it meant that it decreased in the east. Thus they "sucked less of Slavic blood" there. And WWII could be shorter in time.

[Jehan]

Most french people won't admit this but if petain didnt suck german cock, german troops would suck all blood of france. there is a big difference between german treatment of slavs and french.

Every french know how bad WWII starts for us and the heavy casuality we suffers in few months.
With British going back to their islands, it will indeed be a blood bath similar to WWI.
That's why Petain make thhe decision to stop.

[coolfrenchguy]

That's not a comon topic to talk about.

But I would say the huge majority have a negative opinion of him.
Even if many would understand what he did in WWII and why he did. Like he tried to take the best of a bad and desesperate situation.
History give him the bad role later and the role of hero of de gaulle (who was probably a coward during the WWI).

i agree with you isn't really obvious to stay neutral with petain,but maybe he have collaborate a bit to easely,but you have worst in the french socialists like jacques doriot,indeed a lot of socialists became collabos with big hypocrite smiles front of the SS ,i remember some few years i was furious about a pure scumbag leftie who sell his ass to the nazis,one of the worst but i have a blindspot right now, for example francois mitterrand wasn't completly collabo but more near of AF and maurras, i don't consider him as collabo,i have check his political path,and to my eyes,for sure it's a bit weird but he wasn't deeply into,he join quickly the resistance.
but the case of jacques doriot is the most weird, a communist who became waffen-ss

robert brasillach on the left,jacques doriot on the center
my grand-mother was flleeing in the south in the demarked zone soon, in 1940,she was working in the SNCF(trains) as manager office,and she told me some stories,with the rutabagas and kartofell in german,and she stay very gaullist after ,in my family circle it was more resistance than collaborator
you should watch the movies with gerard jugnot faubourg 36 and Monsieur batignole

[coolfrenchguy]

I have refound my blindspot of yersterday brushing my teeths as always.... indeed petain wasn't really behind everything, pierre laval was just behind petain ,one who send the more jews in the death camps and the instigator of the "jews laws" like the yellow star and this odious character was.... socialo-communist, formerly from a the old left,S.F.I.O (unified socialist party) who became the socialist party later,betraying all the jean jaures heritage,but you must read the wiki page about pierre laval https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Laval and watch this movie related : la rafle about the velodrome d'hiver

[The Lawspeaker]

Most of french people consider him as a nazi.

I am sure it's much like how Dutch would consider the likes of Anton Mussert: a dirty traitor.

[PHDNM]

I have refound my blindspot of yersterday brushing my teeths as always.... indeed petain wasn't really behind everything, pierre laval was just behind petain ,one who send the more jews in the death camps and the instigator of the "jews laws" like the yellow star and this odious character was.... socialo-communist, formerly from a the old left,S.F.I.O (unified socialist party) who became the socialist party later,betraying all the jean jaures heritage,but you must read the wiki page about pierre laval https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Laval and watch this movie related : la rafle about the velodrome d'hiver

Message aux millions de jeunes manipulés

https://www.bitchute.com/video/trBCC5PKBqSf/

Dans cette deuxième partie, Vincent Reynouard démonte la propagande orchestrée par les autorités du Musée d'Auschwitz afin de faire croire aux visiteurs qu'ils ont vu une « chambre à gaz » authentique ainsi que des milliers de preuves d'un massacre de masse.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/sazgh5Po10lp/

I have refound my blindspot of yersterday brushing my teeths as always.... indeed petain wasn't really behind everything, pierre laval was just behind petain ,one who send the more jews in the death camps and the instigator of the "jews laws" like the yellow star and this odious character was.... socialo-communist, formerly from a the old left,S.F.I.O (unified socialist party) who became the socialist party later,betraying all the jean jaures heritage,but you must read the wiki page about pierre laval https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Laval and watch this movie related : la rafle about the velodrome d'hiver

Enfants juifs : leur déportation ne signifiait pas leur extermination

Les 11 000 ou 11 400 (en fait, 11 426) enfants juifs déportés de France dont nous entretiennent chaque jour les médias ont été effectivement déportés mais non pas, comme on le dit ou comme on l’insinue un peu partout, déportés et assassinés ou exterminés. Il suffit pour s’en convaincre de lire, entre autres, deux ouvrages de Serge Klarsfeld: 1) La Shoah en France, volume 4, «Le Mémorial des enfants juifs déportés de France», Arthème Fayard, 2001; 2) les différentes éditions du livre intitulé Les 11 400 enfants juifs déportés de France, édité à la fois par «Les Fils et Filles des déportés juifs de France» et par le «Centre national d’information sur les enfants juifs déportés de France» (1ère édition en octobre 1994 et dernière (?) édition en mai 2006). De la même manière, à Paris, au Mémorial de la Shoah, le visiteur est amené à croire que les noms inscrits sur les murs d’entrée sont ceux de juifs morts alors qu’il s’agit en réalité de juifs partis en déportation.

http://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/...tation-ne.html

[The Lawspeaker]

i agree with you isn't really obvious to stay neutral with petain,but maybe he have collaborate a bit to easely,but you have worst in the french socialists like jacques doriot,indeed a lot of socialists became collabos with big hypocrite smiles front of the SS ,i remember some few years i was furious about a pure scumbag leftie who sell his ass to the nazis,one of the worst but i have a blindspot right now, for example francois mitterrand wasn't completly collabo but more near of AF and maurras, i don't consider him as collabo,i have check his political path,and to my eyes,for sure it's a bit weird but he wasn't deeply into,he join quicly the resistance.
but the case of jacques doriot is the most weird, a communist who became waffen-ss

robert brasillach on the left,jacques doriot on the center
my grand-mother was flleeing in the south in the demarked zone soon, in 1940,she was working in the SNCF(trains) as manager office,and she told me some stories,with the rutabagas and kartofell in german,and she stay very gaullist after ,in my family circle it was more resistance than collaborator
you should watch the movies with gerard jugnot faubourg 36 and Monsieur batignole

A famous Dutch socialist described Hitler as a source of inspiration and that around him he had gathered a reborn German nation "herboren, zelfbewust volk" (a people both reborn and self-conscious). Furthermore he stated: „wij strijden tegen die geldmacht, die koopmansgeest die Nederland ten verderve voert” (we too are fighting the same merchant spirit that is destroying our country). He wrote this in 1935. That man would forty years later be prime minister Joop den Uyl. It took the war to wake him and he began to write for clandestine newspapers.