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    *This results is mine. I am from Drama, Greece.
    *I share single population oracle.

    MDLP K23b
    1 Caucasian 36.28
    2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 18.8
    3 European_Early_Farmers 14.79
    4 Near_East 9.24
    5 South_Central_Asian 8.43
    6 Tungus-Altaic 4.76
    7 North_African 4
    8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.5
    9 East_Siberian 0.46
    10 Australoid 0.27
    11 South_Indian 0.22
    12 Archaic_Human 0.14
    13 Amerindian 0.12

    1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 4.83
    2 Turk_Aydin ( ) 7.28
    3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.59
    4 Bulgarian ( ) 9.05
    5 Macedonian ( ) 9.22
    6 Gagauz ( ) 9.97
    7 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 10.27
    8 Montenegrian ( ) 10.5
    9 Romanian ( ) 10.76
    10 Croat_BH ( ) 10.99
    11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.02
    12 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.04
    13 Bosnian ( ) 11.09
    14 Serb_BH ( ) 11.24
    15 Cretan ( ) 11.37
    16 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.41
    17 Croat ( ) 11.47
    18 Sicilian_West ( ) 11.9
    19 Romanian_Jew ( ) 11.92
    20 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.99

    Eurogenes K13
    1 East_Med 23.45
    2 West_Asian 17.97
    3 Baltic 15.92
    4 North_Atlantic 15.53
    5 West_Med 15.36
    6 Siberian 4.08
    7 Red_Sea 4.04
    8 South_Asian 1.2
    9 Oceanian 1.2
    10 East_Asian 0.82
    11 Amerindian 0.44

    1 Greek_Thessaly 8.98
    2 Central_Greek 10.21
    3 Italian_Abruzzo 11.47
    4 East_Sicilian 11.64
    5 Bulgarian 11.9
    6 Ashkenazi 13.6
    7 Romanian 13.78
    8 West_Sicilian 14.13
    9 South_Italian 14.21
    10 Tuscan 16.37
    11 Serbian 17.83
    12 Turkish 18.01
    13 Sephardic_Jewish 18.94
    14 Algerian_Jewish 19.75
    15 Italian_Jewish 19.81
    16 North_Italian 20.46
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 22.05
    18 Cyprian 22.09
    19 Moldavian 22.16
    20 Azeri 22.24

    Eurogenes K15
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 22.08
    2 West_Asian 16.09
    3 North_Sea 14.25
    4 West_Med 12.62
    5 Baltic 8.75
    6 Eastern_Euro 8.65
    7 Atlantic 6.62
    8 Red_Sea 4.01
    9 Siberian 3.6
    10 South_Asian 1.43
    11 Oceanian 1.04
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.59
    13 Amerindian 0.26

    1 Greek_Thessaly 8.92
    2 Ashkenazi 9.62
    3 Central_Greek 10.86
    4 Greek 11.51
    5 East_Sicilian 12.02
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.24
    7 Bulgarian 12.89
    8 Romanian 13.67
    9 South_Italian 14.28
    10 West_Sicilian 15.05
    11 Tuscan 15.74
    12 Serbian 16.52
    13 Italian_Jewish 17.19
    14 Turkish 17.91
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.08
    16 Algerian_Jewish 19
    17 North_Italian 20.19
    18 Moldavian 20.22
    19 Libyan_Jewish 20.88
    20 Azeri 21.17

    Dodecad K12b
    1 Caucasus 30.19
    2 North_European 23.09
    3 Atlantic_Med 20.02
    4 Gedrosia 10.03
    5 Southwest_Asian 9.52
    6 Siberian 2.84
    7 East_Asian 2.08
    8 Northwest_African 1.72
    9 South_Asian 0.51

    1 Greek (Dodecad) 12.44
    2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.62
    3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.89
    4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.91
    5 Romanians (Behar) 15.11
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.3
    7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.93
    8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.18
    9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.22
    10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.56
    11 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.33
    12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.98
    13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.33
    14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.34
    15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.83
    16 Turks (Behar) 21.87
    17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.16
    18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.77
    19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.35
    20 North_Italian (HGDP) 24.45

    puntDNAL K12 Modern
    1 Anatolian_NF 31.45
    2 Caucasus_HG 29.76
    3 European_HG 19.9
    4 Near_East 11.71
    5 Siberian 2.34
    6 Beringian 1.92
    7 Oceanian 1
    8 East_Asian 0.97
    9 Amerindian 0.46
    10 South_Asian 0.35
    11 South_African_HG 0.14

    1 Turkish_Aydin 8.61
    2 Ashkenazi_Jew 10.36
    3 Greek 11.17
    4 Albanian 12
    5 Sicilian_East 12
    6 Bulgarian 12.03
    7 Sicilian_West 12.45
    8 Tuscan 13.52
    9 Turkish 13.75
    10 Turkish_Kayseri 17.06
    11 Kurdish 17.38
    12 Nogai 18.08
    13 Kumyk 18.41
    14 Croatian 18.61
    15 Moroccan_Jew 18.71
    16 Lebanese 18.96
    17 Turkish_Jew 19.17
    18 Cypriot 19.34
    19 Assyrian 19.41
    20 Balkar 19.62

    Eurogenes K36
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 0.08
    Armenian 6.08
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 8.48
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 8.65
    East_Central_Asian 1.26
    East_Central_Euro 5.05
    East_Med 11.37
    Eastern_Euro 6.44
    Fennoscandian 0.38
    French 1.74
    Iberian 3.99
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 9.93
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 9.20
    North_African 1.47
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian 11.31
    North_Sea 2.24
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian 0.43
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian 1.09
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 4.00
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 0.80
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 1.40
    West_Med 4.61

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    Yarı Selanik yarı İstanbul'lu değil misin? Drama ne alaka
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Yarı Selanik yarı İstanbul'lu değil misin? Drama ne alaka
    My father side from Drama and Salonica but i say Salonica. Because Salonica bigger than Drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karakartal View Post
    My father side from Drama and Salonica but i say Salonica. Because Salonica bigger than Drama.
    Balkan Turk refugees from Thessaloniki genetically different than Drama. Drama was Bulgarian and Turkmen settlement since these people score similar to Bulgarian Turks. Thessaloniki genetically was mostly Greek.

    On the other hand some people who migrated from Drama and Thessaloniki are originally from today's N.Macedonia, Ohrid-Skopje-Bitola regions. This is another fact. But your results seems typical when we consider your Istanbul admixture.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Balkan Turk refugees from Thessaloniki genetically different than Drama. Drama was Bulgarian and Turkmen settlement since these people score similar to Bulgarian Turks. Thessaloniki genetically was mostly Greek.

    On the other hand some people who migrated from Drama and Thessaloniki are originally from today's N.Macedonia, Ohrid-Skopje-Bitola regions. This is another fact. But your results seems typical when we consider your Istanbul admixture.
    My father side not a from city center Salonica and Drama. They was lives villages.

    I don't know my maternal from. I think they came Anatolia to Istanbul. But which region? I want to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karakartal View Post
    My father side not a from city center Salonica and Drama. They was lives villages.

    I don't know my maternal from. I think they came Anatolia to Istanbul. But which region? I want to know that.
    Yeah that is good point. Can you tell which villages they lived so i can guess native population of there? You can also write via p.m.

    About your maternal line, i thought they're natives of Istanbul. What was your "e-devlet" showing? What is the oldest record of your maternal side? Where s/he from? Your WA not that high so it is impossible they're originally from Central or Eastern Anatolia.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    My Eurogenes K36 genetic similarity map
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    Gedrosia Ancient Eurasia K6
    # Population Percent
    1 Natufian 45.04
    2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 26.59
    3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.69
    4 East_Asian 4.92
    5 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 2.76

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 7.2
    2 Greek 7.21
    3 Jew_Ashkenazi 7.35
    4 Italian_South 7.69
    5 Albanian 8.65
    6 Armenia_ChL 8.86
    7 Turkish 10.02
    8 Jew_Moroccan 10.43
    9 Bulgarian 10.56
    10 Jew_Tunisian 12.12
    11 Jew_Libyan 12.15
    12 Romanian 12.37
    13 Balkar 13.39
    14 Kumyk 13.63
    15 Adygei 13.88
    16 Cypriot 13.99
    17 Chechen 15.57
    18 Croatian 16.14
    19 Lebanese 16.31
    20 Syrian 16.65

    HarappaWorld
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 29.88
    2 NE-Euro 22.94
    3 Mediterranean 19.24
    4 Baloch 11.74
    5 SW-Asian 9.81
    6 Siberian 3.39
    7 NE-Asian 1.17
    8 Papuan 1
    9 Beringian 0.69
    10 W-African 0.07
    11 San 0.04
    12 S-Indian 0.03

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 ashkenazi (harappa) 9.97
    2 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 11.61
    3 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 12.61
    4 tuscan (1000genomes) 13.95
    5 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 14.3
    6 tuscan (hgdp) 14.36
    7 romanian-a (behar) 14.97
    8 tuscan (hapmap) 14.98
    9 sephardic-jew (behar) 17.94
    10 morocco-jew (behar) 19.34
    11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.75
    12 italian (hgdp) 20.66
    13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.89
    14 nogai (yunusbayev) 21.22
    15 turk (behar) 21.92
    16 stalskoe (xing) 22.04
    17 romanian-b (behar) 22.4
    18 turkish (harappa) 22.47
    19 turkmen (yunusbayev) 24.27
    20 azeri (harappa) 24.34

    Dodecad K7b
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Baltic 38.72
    2 West_Asian 28.45
    3 Southern 26.54
    4 Siberian 3.82
    5 East_Asian 1.2
    6 South_Asian 1.11
    7 African 0.16

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.2
    2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 11.15
    3 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.4
    4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.17
    5 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.18
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 13.48
    7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.59
    8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 13.9
    9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.39
    10 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
    11 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.16
    12 Romanians (Behar) 17.01
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.9
    14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.74
    15 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.87
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.39
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.69
    18 Turks (Behar) 23.02
    19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.86
    20 Cypriots (Behar) 25.58

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    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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