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    Can any experts in anthropology, as well as US demographics, share their thoughts on the following:

    These days, even though the US White population is declining, there’s the belief that Hispanics (the light-skinned ones) will soon identify as White, sort of following in the footsteps of Irish, Italians, Jews 100 yrs ago. In this way, it’s claimed, the “White” US population won’t formally become a “minority.”

    Here’s at least one example where this is discussed,
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/30/o...-majority.html

    The Hispanic-NonHisp.White intermarriage rate is the highest in the country. I see some comments to the effect of [i]“The distinction between the two ethnic groups will probably vanish within a generation or two. Texans refer to non-Hispanic whites as ‘Anglos’ rather than Whites because most Texans consider Texan Hispanics white. Also, “Most Hispanic Americans are white.”[i]



    So how quickly do races merge, i.e., is it indeed a short-term possibility for Latinos to become racially White?

    Here’s a counterargument: in Latin America, there was strong intermixing of whites (Spanish) with the indigenous people. But the result has been a separate race which is distinct from whites.

    Also, if Latinos are white, why is there so much resistance to their migration into the US, causing the build-the-wall Trump outrage? I realize some of the opposition isn’t racist, but much of it is.

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    If the ones in the higher euro spectrum mix with whites, probably.


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    I feel the European looking spics will be like Italian-Americans in the future (used to be separate from white but considered white in the future). Basically, what I am getting at, is that when poor to middle class whites marry with poor to middle class hispanics, the children often adopt mainly white cultures and values. And they often marry with other half-breeds which helps bleach the gene pool.

    By 2050, hispanics will have mostly assimilated into American culture and society. Fewer hispanic children will be taught Spanish as their first language, and many (perhaps the majority) will speak no Spanish at all. They will be considered white the same way Italians and Ashkenazi Jews are now considered white, and their voting patterns will be not much different from non-hispanic whites (the Democrats will have to actually compete to earn their votes).

    Of course, this can only happen if illegal immigration continues to decline from its turn-of-the-century peak, which in turn can only happen if Trump succeeds in shifting the Overton window on immigration so that future administrations are not tempted to reverse his policies.
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    For many of them not currently, but upon mixing more with European Americans perhaps. There's quite a few 75-90% European hispanics that I would consider white passing.

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    These days, even though the US White population is declining, there’s the belief that Hispanics (the light-skinned ones)
    Maybe people with Hispanic ancestry who are less Amerindian than Castizos, but most "Hispanics" here are brown, heavily Indian mixed Mestizos.

    will soon identify as White, sort of following in the footsteps of Irish, Italians, Jews 100 yrs ago.
    It's a myth that these groups weren't considered white.

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    Also, if Latinos are white, why is there so much resistance to their migration into the US, causing the build-the-wall Trump outrage? I realize some of the opposition isn’t racist, but much of it is.
    Even if we accept this premise as true, it ignores the fact that the majority of Latinos don't actually pass for white IRL in the US, especially the ones who cross the border. And just like every other immigration clash in the past, it's as much a cultural and economic thing as it is physical-racial, probably more so.

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    I sense that a significant proportion of Hispanics who try everyday to move to the US are not even Mexicans but from Central America like Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras. The average guatemalan/honduran/whatnot is even more amerindian than the average mexican. And those who come to the US are even more amerindian than the average.

    Mexico is poor compared to the US, but those central american countries compared with the US are complete shitholes.


    A 50/60% european mestizo mixing with a WASP will come out very different from mixing with a Southern european. Northern European genes are very prominent. Wouldn't be surprised if a society composed by people who are 50-50 Mexican and WASP/German/Irish will have a similar amount/percentage of blue/light eyes and light hair to Southern europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    And where do they live in America?
    Florida (Cubans), New York (Puerto ricans?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    They are triracials though, not Castizos.
    Cubans from Florida i don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    Cubans from Florida i don't think so.
    Cubans from Florida are ''Triracial'' in the sense Marco Rubio is a ''Triracial'', i.e. they are overwhelmingly European with very small admixture (Rubio is 92% European according to his DNA test). If all Hispanics in USA were Cubans they would have been considered white there.

    Balanced Triracials(37/37/37) are very uncommon among USA Cubans.

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