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Thread: 23andme results of North-West African Jews (Haplogroups+Autosomal)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    Thanks .Any thoughts about ancestry composition/Haplogroups? did something surprised you?
    Being Haplogroup G that stood out to me on FTDNA my final position is G-M406 on Big Y

    Also I wasn’t surprised with the averages on the results the Algerian in Moroccan Jews are essentially half Iberian/italic half Levantine


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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    Being Haplogroup G that stood out to me on FTDNA my final position is G-M406 on Big Y

    Also I wasn’t surprised with the averages on the results the Algerian in Moroccan Jews are essentially half Iberian half Levantine
    Actually it seems like North African Jews have much more Italian ancestry than Iberian. In some cases it's even or Iberian>Italian, but there is strong Italian component.
    Don;t forget it's not pure 50% Levant 50% Europe as there is strong Berber component, sometimes stronger than the levantine.

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    That's a great thread. Wished that there had been this many Palestinian results. I know I've said this in the past, but 23andMe don't send their kits to the middle east except for Israel. I'm surprised that they score a little more European ancestry though. I've heard a lot of these Jews went to the Americas as cypto-Jews and mixed with the natives and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    .....I'm surprised that they score a little more European ancestry though. I've heard a lot of these Jews went to the Americas as cypto-Jews and mixed with the natives and so on.
    I might be just tired (3AM) but I don’t understand to whom are you referring and in what context lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    I might be just tired (3AM) but I don’t understand to whom are you referring and in what context lol
    I was talking about the Jews who were forced to convert to Christianity and migrated to the new world. I've seen many Latinos here who scored small amount of Jewish ancestries. It's 4:52 AM here and I just woke up, rofl. Take some rest, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I was talking about the Jews who were forced to convert to Christianity and migrated to the new world. I've seen many Latinos here who scored small amount of Jewish ancestries. It's 4:52 AM here and I just woke up, rofl. Take some rest, bro.
    What do you think about the results of these North African jews? Are you surprised by the high Berber? By the diversity (European can be anything from 30% to 60%..)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    What do you think about the results of these North African jews? Are you surprised by the high Berber? By the diversity (European can be anything from 30% to 60%..)?
    I'm not surprised about the Berber admixtures considering that they admixed with them from ancient times similarly we Palestinians also have some Berber ancestries like me and happycow during the French colonial rule of Algeria where many Berber groups like the Kabyle and the Riffians migrated to what is now Israel 200 years ago. Yeah, I think it's the most surprising fact is showing that ancient Jews did not only mixed with Italians and so on. It seems they also mixed and assimilated a good chunk of Iberian genes in their genepool as well. I can say that Jews - like their Semitic cousins, the Arabs - are very diverse Semitic grouping in terms of cultures and genetics.

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    I'm surprised by the relatively high amount of both Iberian and Berber. Do you know if Ashkenazi Jews also share some of this ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I'm not surprised about the Berber admixtures considering that they admixed with them from ancient times similarly we Palestinians also have some Berber ancestries like me and happycow during the French colonial rule of Algeria where many Berber groups like the Kabyle and the Riffians migrated to what is now Israel 200 years ago. Yeah, I think it's the most surprising fact is showing that ancient Jews did not only mixed with Italians and so on. It seems they also mixed and assimilated a good chunk of Iberian genes in their genepool as well. I can say that Jews - like their Semitic cousins, the Arabs - are very diverse Semitic grouping in terms of cultures and genetics.
    Sephardi Jews are mix jews, berber and iberian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisarb View Post
    Sephardi Jews are mix jews, berber and iberian?
    Nope. There are different groups of Sephardim.
    East Sephardim are mix of Ashkenazim, Judeans and Italians (Berber and Iberian componentes are typically low)
    North African sephardim are mix of Judean,Italian,Iberian and Berber. They received migration waves from conversos thus higher Iberian. North African are very heterogeneous- anything from 35% to 60% European on average.

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