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    Default Has the Pontid phenotype been misappropriated by European TA Taxonomists?

    Contemplation inspired by taxonomical discussion in another thread by Shelati et NarLFC (2019).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dna8 View Post
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    can you please explain a bit more?

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    Is Pontid overused/misused in the European aesthetic context?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dna8 View Post
    Is Pontid overused/misused in the European aesthetic context?
    I think Pontid or Pontic Mediterranean is typical Pontic Greek look but I am not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonj View Post
    I think Pontid or Pontic Mediterranean is typical Pontic Greek look but I am not sure
    Totally wrong
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonj View Post
    I think Pontid or Pontic Mediterranean is typical Pontic Greek look but I am not sure
    North Pontid is an east european steppe phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    North Pontid is an east european steppe phenotype.
    North Pontid is not a true type.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    North Pontid is an east european steppe phenotype.
    Maybe so, but we are talking about standard Pontids, which isnt a uniquely European phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarLFC View Post
    Maybe so, but we are talking about standard Pontids, which isnt a uniquely European phenotype.
    East Mediterranean, can be balkanite, ukrainian, turkish, caucasian and middle eastern.

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