Why do girls do better in school?

[SwordoftheVistula]

From another thread which now appears to be closed:

"Any college teacher (at least in the social sciences and life sciences) who has ever paid attention to their own stats know that women do better than men in college classes.
There are all kinds of post hoc explanations given for this like "Girls get better grades because professors are men, nod nod wink wink" and so on. What a load of crap. Women are smarter than men on average, among the smartest people there is no emperical evidence that women are underrepresented, and among the dumbest people in the world .... well, those are mostly guys.
The reasons are obvious and straight forward. The hormones that give some men an evolutionary advantage over some other men also make you stoopid. Any questions? Ask a girl, she'll explain it to you.
And now, finally (or shall I say, "once again") there's proof:

The actual scientific studies which have been done show men to be smarter, with an IQ of about 5 points higher:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...hard-Lynn.html

at the near-genius level (an IQ of 145), brilliant men outnumber brilliant women by 8 to one. That's statistics, not sexism.

The undeniable, easily measurable fact remains that, by the time both sexes reach 21, men, on average, score five IQ points higher than women.


So why the differential? I think it is a combination of:

Explosion in size of humanities & similar degrees (non math/science).

Lower-to-middle class men don't go to college as much, since they tend toward jobs in construction, truck driving, and military which do not need any education. Lower-to-middle class women in tend towards jobs such as secretary, clerical, teaching, etc usually need at least an associate's degree from a community college.

Continued resistance to standardized testing, and instead reliance on grades in K-12 (which are subjective and vary widely) as well as bullshit essays and such.

In the K-12 environment, I'd say in addition to more emphasis on humanities type subjects, there is the focus on conformity and following rules, which tends towards girls instead of boys. Also, the grades can often be subjective, and teachers' opinions of girls are usually higher due to nicer personalities and less likelihood to create classroom disruptions.

[Hellenic-Saxon]

I think it has a lot to do with the media promoting men to be bad and that it's cool to be bad, while with women, they are taught that if they don't get an education, they might wind up as a "just a house wife", and being a house wife nowadays if frowned upon even though it's the job that nature intended for women.

[Curtis24]

Its just more important to them, it seems.

Also, as for college, I believe that women have higher verbal intelligence. Which allows them to outperform men in liberal arts.

[SwordoftheVistula]

I think it has a lot to do with the media promoting men to be bad and that it's cool to be bad, while with women, they are taught that if they don't get an education, they might wind up as a "just a house wife", and being a house wife nowadays if frowned upon even though it's the job that nature intended for women.

At least in the US, education is very heavily promoted to men as well, the mantra is that 'education is necessary', and all jobs not needing college such as truck driving and construction are portrayed as paying at or around minimum wage (which is not actually true) and 'only for losers'. Even in households headed by baby boomer men employed in these jobs, these men hold a perception left over from their youth that college education=upper middle class lifestyle, and encourage their children to 'go to college' in order to 'have a better life than I did'.

Media promotion of the 'bad boy image' as 'cool' may have some effect on the underclass which already was resigned to no expectation of financial success in life, leading them to drop out of school or commit crimes in their youth, but I doubt these people would excell even if they stayed in school and tried to go to college.

[Bridie]

Any college teacher (at least in the social sciences and life sciences) who has ever paid attention to their own stats know that women do better than men in college classes.

Generally speaking, girls tend to do better in primary and high school also. I think the main factor is that higher levels of oestrogen are conducive to passivity (lower physical energy levels allowing girls/women to sit and concentrate for longer periods of time) whereas higher testosterone levels are conducive to physical activity (making boys/men more restless and unable to sit and concentrate for extended periods). Of course, men have a tendancy to be able to concentrate for extended periods also, but in active situations, not so much passive ones. Modern education systems are therefore more tailored to suit female learning styles and neglect to cater to male learning styles.

Women are smarter than men on average

It is not a matter of men or women being smarter, but one of men and women having their own, very different strengths. Men tend to being more capable with subjects involving more abstract concepts (maths, physics) and women tend to be more capable with language and subjects involving analysis of interpersonal/social relationships (so subjects like literature and sociology). Overwhelmingly, men are dominant in professions such as engineering (among other occupations requiring a high level of understanding of mathematical concepts) while women are best represented in "caring" professions which require high levels of empathy and interpersonal communication.

The reasons are obvious and straight forward. The hormones that give some men an evolutionary advantage over some other men also make you stoopid.

Ridiculous statement. Not even worth commenting on.


I don't think men and women can really be compared with each other, as is so often done these days since subjects like "gender studies" became popular after the "sexual revolution" of the 60's. It's like comparing apples and oranges. We're too different.

[Debaser11]

Uh, because our education system is a wet joke of feminist sentimental nonsense, for the most part.

Fifty/sixty years ago, women were not doing better in school. But then, we actually had an education system that valued turning out knowledgable people over conditioning people to be unthinking, Marxist simpletons.

[Breedingvariety]

- Women have better memory to memorize without thinking;
- Women have more patience with nonsense;
- Women are more submissive to accept what they are taught;
- Women have better emotional and social intelligence to better grasp what lecturer wants for good grades and share good grades achieving tactics among friends;
- Women are more concerned about good grades and not the matter of studied subject, more so than men.

[Boudica]

Hey! That was my quote.. But just so you know I was only using it as amo because I was arguing with gayfist. Gayfist (geistfaust) was trying to say women are stupid, and should beat them if they are out of line. I think that both sexes, (although very different) have the potential to be equally intelligent.

[Aelred]

Because the presence of beautiful women lowers our IQ temporarily. And they're distracting. Men perform differently in an all male environment (which is why they've fought hard to destroy those traditional institutions.)

[Bridie]

Hey! That was my quote.. But just so you know I was only using it as amo because I was arguing with gayfist. Gayfist (geistfaust) was trying to say women are stupid, and should beat them if they are out of line. I think that both sexes, (although very different) have the potential to be equally intelligent.

Sorry, Boadicea. If I had realised it was a quote from a member here I'd have realised the comments probably weren't 100% serious but rather meant to be 'tongue in cheek'.

Because the presence of beautiful women lowers our IQ temporarily. And they're distracting. Men perform differently in an all male environment (which is why they've fought hard to destroy those traditional institutions.)

It doesn't help that from high school upward, girls/women these days tend to present themselves (dress, hair, make-up) in such a sexually provocative manner. For many women, sexuality = power, and they will use it to get whatever they want, whether it simply be attention or to get an advantage over their peers (both male and female).