Guys, do Assyrians and Arameans trace their origin on Caucasus?

[AphroditeWorshiper]

they seems to have early Urartian and Hurrian origin, and not Mesopotamian

[AphroditeWorshiper]

come on guys!

[FinalFlash]

They're noticeably more northern shifted relative to their neighbors, even Iraqi Jews so it's likely they have had some genetic input from northern people.

[AphroditeWorshiper]

They're noticeably more northern shifted relative to their neighbors, even Iraqi Jews so it's likely they have had some genetic input from northern people.

my theory is that they are a southern branch of Urartians and Hurrians

[FinalFlash]

my theory is that they are a southern branch of Urartians and Hurrians

Partially descended from them, Mitanni as well among other tribes. They have a decent amount of Barcin_N(Early European Farmer) and even some Steppe too.

[Aren]

Doubt it. CHG/Iran_N-like admixture has decreased drastically in the Southern Caucasus and the Armenian highlands when comparing modern people such as Armenians and BA samples from the same area.
This points to an opposite geneflow of what you are proposing ie from the Levant and Anatolia to the Southern Caucasus.

[Tigranes]

[wvwvw]

Uranus lived at that time as the Hurrian god Anu and the Hindu Varuna. They were all the same entity. Why do you think the Hurrians where so called? It was after Uranus, ie. Hourrianos who conquered them at the start of the Hyksos period and built an empire spanning from Italy to India including Babylon, Egypt and Phoenicia. Look at that archaeology. Other than Assyro-Babylonia and Egypt then only powerful civilisation that existed in the Hyksos period that build anything in stone on a similar scale was that of the Cretan Greeks, and the Mittani who followed the Hurrians but spoke an indo-European language preserved the name of the Greco-Roman god Saturn (also preserved in Linear A) in the names of their kings and also named the Hindu gods in their inscriptions since they were their own ancestors. F E Pargiter's dating of the first Hindu kings placed the Hindu gods at the same time Greek and Phoenician and Hurrian chronology places their own gods and this is the period of the Hyksos.

[chinshen]

No, not really.

[wvwvw]

The term Aryans refers to a tribe of Armenians descended from Kardos Ara Araian. That means Persians are descended from Medes/Kurds and Medes/Kurds from Armenians.

The name Kurd is most likely derived from a population that inhabited the same area where the Kurds live, the ancient Hurrians known also as Hurrites or Khurrites who lived there at least since 2300 b.C.

The Hurrians were after conquered by Assyrians, the last Khurrite kingdoms were destroyed by Sea Peoples around 1200 BC the Khurrite language vanished around 1000 b.C. replaced by Assyrian, Median and Persian (actual Kurdish language is closely related to Persian).

Before they were called Kurds or Arians after Kardos Ara Araian. Kardos Ara Araian in the Armenian chronology reigns from 1559 to 1555 BC followed by Anoushavan who is the Biblical Uz. In 1539 BC Anoushavan is succeeded as king by the Assyrians since he has no heirs.

In the pseudo-Assyrian list Zameis is followed by Arius in 1542 BC. It is extremely likely that Arius is the same name as Araian and it is most likely to be the same entity as Kardos Ara Araian, who after being deposed by Anoushavan, flees to Media makes himself king and names the land Kurdistan after himself, and after Anoushavan's death takes back half the kingdom of Armenia which is named after Aram. There other half of Armenia is ruled by Haik the son of Togarmah the son of Gomer.

But Aram is also the name of the Syrians, or Arameans, and their language is Aramaic.

So here is the reason why Berosus has passed off a king list which from the typology of the names is clearly Hellenised names of Median kings, as an Assyrian king list. He's got Assyrians mixed up with Syrians by getting Medes mixed up with Armenians and associating Armenia with Aramea or Syria.

On the other hand, perhaps the Syrians were actually descended from the Medes who were descended from the Armenians and did not have their own kings until the time of King David which is when the Bible first mentions the kingdom of Syria coming into existence, and they kept the name Aramea after Aram the founder of Armenia.

The pseudo-Assyrian list of Berosus, which is actually a list of kings of the Medes places Mitheaeus as king from 1233 to 1206 BC. This is Medus the son of Medea and Aegeus the king of Athens. Jerome places the end of Aegeus reign in 1234 BC and this means that Medea was regent over the Medes during the early part of Medus reign. It is from Medus that the Medes obtained their name. Previously they were called Kurds or Arians after Kardos Ara Araian.

The Greek historian Herodotus related that from Athens Medea went to the region of Asia subsequently called Media, whose inhabitants thereupon changed their name to Medes.