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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Where do I claim you dont know about Islam, he doesnt.

    Islam is a disgusting cult without the hadiths too
    Whatever you say buddy. We will all be judged. Don't think any priest will absolve you of anything. He will answer for his sins too, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Bosniaks, Albanians and Modern Turks follow Islam that is bound to traditional Ottoman values, we are very different to Arabs.

    Our faith revolved around the Emperor of Constantinople who was supreme leader of Islam and defender of the Faith, he was God's "shadow" on the Earth whose position was sacred.

    He was Caliph of Islam, Caesar of the Romans, Padishah of Persians and Turks.

    The fact that modern Westerners know nothing about that ... we don't care.

    Feel free to construct whatever opinion you want about us.
    Be careful bro. This is the same chain of thought that led Arabs away from the Quran into all sorts of nonsense. God is The Single Force. He has no partner. No middle man. No empire defines him, he defines all. Each empire has its expiration, as do its people. Only good deeds, avoidance of major evils, and being charitable above all is our covenant. To uphold the truth, against falsehood. Within and without our nations. Our faith is only from The Creator. It is He who grants it, and He who can take it away. We serve The One Above All. It was Ibrahim who named us Muslim. Nations, emperorers, peoples come and go. Only The One remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnusDark View Post
    Be careful bro. This is the same chain of thought that led Arabs away from the Quran into all sorts of nonsense. God is The Single Force. He has no partner. No middle man. No empire defines him, he defines all. Each empire has its expiration, as do its people. Only good deeds, avoidance of major evils, and being charitable above all is our covenant. To uphold the truth, against falsehood. Within and without our nations. Our faith is only from The Creator. It is He who grants it, and He who can take it away. We serve The One Above All. It was Ibrahim who named us Muslim. Nations, emperorers, peoples come and go. Only The One remains.
    i agree, but Caliph/Emperor is a political leader... "sacred" in the sense that we must unite around him.. Of course he is not sacred like "saint" in christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    i agree, but Caliph/Emperor is a political leader... "sacred" in the sense that we must unite around him.. Of course he is not sacred like "saint" in christianity.
    Well Adam was named Caliph. In classical Arabic it means successor/caretaker/to succeed.

    We only serve The One Creator. Even messengers are just servants.

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    Whichever one is practiced in Turkey, which is not an Islamic fundamentalist country.
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    Shia due to their opposition to Zionism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Shia due to their opposition to Zionism
    Pretty sure any Muslim(regardless of their ass backwards sects) are anti-Zionist lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    As you all know, I don't like Islam as I don't like any Abrahamic religion (some sects I find more tolerable than others), but if I had to pick, I would pick Shia Islam because its theology is amenable to a wide range of unorthodox views because it is hierarchical and ascribes supernatural powers to Shia leaders. It is their supposed affinity to the household of the prophet (Ahl-al-Bayt) which is supposedly responsible for their powers.
    What do you mean by leaders here? In Orthodox Shia Islam (Twelver Shias), the 12 Imams are the only rightful heirs for succession of the Prophet. And they don't have supernatural powers, rather they have divine knowledge that's been bestowed upon them by God. Saying supernatural powers is quite misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    What do you mean by leaders here? In Orthodox Shia Islam (Twelver Shias), the 12 Imams are the only rightful heirs for succession of the Prophet. And they don't have supernatural powers, rather they have divine knowledge that's been bestowed upon them by God. Saying supernatural powers is quite misleading.
    It is said that for the Agha Khan, wine turns to water when it passes his lips.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    It is said that for the Agha Khan, wine turns to water when it passes his lips.
    I do not know how authentic this sentence is, but if so you must be thinking of Ismailis, a very small branch of Shia Islam.

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