Should there be a unified Castile region within Spain?

[Mingle]

Castile is a historic region in Spain that is currently divided between a number of different autonomous communities.

From what I heard, there's little to weak affiliation with a Castilian cultural identity due to the fact that the region is politically divided and this would probably give rise to a Castilian identity. I don't think this would get Castilians to abandon Spanish nationalism in favor of Castilian nationalism because they are still the largest region and the center of power is in Castile. Similar to how England doesn't have English nationalism threatening the UK, a united Castile shouldn't either produce some sort of nationalism threatening Spain's unity.

Galicians have a Galicia, Asturians have an Asturia, Aragonese have an Aragon, etc. So why not let Castilians have a [united] Castile?

Here is a famous quote from Claudio Sánchez-Albornoz:

"Castilla hizo a España y España deshizo a Castilla."

Castile made Spain and Spain undid Castile.

Some possible borders of Castile (the first map is 'Old Castile'):





Here are some links in Spanish in regards to a united Castile movement:

• https://castillaresiste.wordpress.co...trema-derecha/

• https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izquierda_Castellana

• https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castel...pol%C3%ADtica)

Currently, the unification of autonomous regions (with the exception of the Basque Country and Navarre) are illegal, so it's not really something possible right now, but this could be changed if 3/5th of congress agrees to.

There is a bit of a problem with exactly what the borders of Castile should be and there are regions that were historically part of Castile (such as Cantabria) who have 0 sense of a Castilian identity nowadays.

So there would definitely be some hurdles if such a thing were to be achieved. However, I'm just wondering if the Spanish (especially Castilian) users here support the concept of a united Castile? Even though it may not be realistic right now, is it something that sounds like a good idea in theory at least? Would it be something nice to have to solidify/promote a Castilian regional identity on par with the Catalan, Galician, etc. identities? Or is it just a stupid suggestion that will create division within Spain?

[Cristiano viejo]

Castile is a historic region in Spain that is currently divided between a number of different autonomous communities.

From what I heard, there's little to weak affiliation with a Castilian cultural identity due to the fact that the region is politically divided

The opposite. The fact that we are divided makes that all of us have a strong cultural identity.

If Castile was reunified, then its borders would probably look something like this (they could be slightly different but the debate about their borders is another topic):

What shit of map is that??

This is the real Castilla

[Borealis]

Who cares what happens in this indisputably irrelevant nation.

[Mingle]

The opposite. The fact that we are divided makes that all of us have a strong cultural identity.

I see, I heard differently before. But anyways, why did you vote yes?

What shit of map is that??

This is the real Castilla

Well there seem to be different interpretations of what Castile's boundaries are. I just posted the map that included regions that are undisputedly part of Castile. I updated my original post to include a second map with more regions that are not always considered part of Castile. Do most Leonese people really consider themselves Castilian?

[Cristiano viejo]

I see, I heard differently before. But anyways, why did you vote yes?

How why?? because it is obvious that I want a unified Castilla. I want the Castilla of the map that I posted.

Well there seem to be different interpretations of what Castile's boundaries are. I just posted the map that included regions that are undisputedly part of Castile. I updated my original post to include a second map with more regions that are not always considered part of Castile. Do most Leonese people really consider themselves Castilian?

No, you did not. Castilla and León united themselves in the year 1230 and did not separate anymore.

Leonese dont consider Castilian (even although the regional Leonese party does not rule there never) but people from Zamora and Salamanca (the other provincies of the former kingdom of León) do.

I dont know if you know every Spanish province (I say this for your second map), but Cantabria has been part of Castilla since always until the year 1981 and the province of La Rioja until the year 1982
The province of Albacete has been Castilian since always.

[Mingle]

No, you did not. Castilla and León united themselves in the year 1230 and did not separate anymore.

Leonese dont consider Castilian (even although the regional Leonese party does not rule there never) but people from Zamora and Salamanca (the other provincies of the former kingdom of León) do.

I just checked again. That map was supposed to represent 'Old Castile'. I assume that these regions were always considered part of Castile since some maps exclude Zamora and Salamanaca. But I added your map anyways. I decided to include the other map since the definition varies.

If people from Zamora and Salamanaca aren't considered Leonese, then where are Leonese people from?

I dont know if you know every Spanish province (I say this for your second map), but Cantabria has been part of Castilla since always until the year 1981 and the province of La Rioja until the year 1982
The province of Albacete has been Castilian since always.

Okay.

[Cristiano viejo]

If people from Zamora and Salamanaca aren't considered Leonese, then where are Leonese people from?

From the province of León, fuck

[Vožd]

Who cares what happens in this indisputably irrelevant nation.

Why Spain and Italy become influential in EU?

[Mingle]

From the province of León, fuck

My bad, I had it confused with this region

[Zuh]

I support the independence of Cataluña if they become their own country I will migrate there and open a Mexican restaurant