K13 results - romanian

[Ghitza von Pigsty]

Hello lads,

I know I'm probably off topic , but please bear with me until I get more familiarized with the site since I'm a bit of newgaf. Long story short I just got myself a DNA test from 23andme which I've uploaded it into GEDmatch and myheritage. For 23and me I got 86% Greek & Balkan, 13% Eastern European and 1% Mongolian/Siberian. After that I've uploaded the raw data on My heritage and I got 56% Balkan, 33& Greek and South Italian and 11% Northwestern European...
The Gedmatch results on K13 on my kit HG4354495 are the following (feel free to use it as you see fit):


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.4
2 North_Atlantic 21.92
3 East_Med 18.05
4 West_Med 14.26
5 West_Asian 11.68
6 Red_Sea 2.65
7 Oceanian 1.12
8 Siberian 0.62
9 Amerindian 0.46
10 East_Asian 0.43
11 South_Asian 0.27
12 Northeast_African 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.99
2 Bulgarian 5.49
3 Serbian 5.71
4 Moldavian 8.59
5 Croatian 11.62
6 Hungarian 12.47
7 Greek_Thessaly 14
8 Austrian 16.31
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.46
10 East_German 17.81
11 South_Polish 18.43
12 Ukrainian 18.79
13 Tuscan 20.02
14 North_Italian 20.31
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.35
16 Central_Greek 20.6
17 Southwest_Russian 21.11
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.24
19 West_German 21.3
20 East_Sicilian 21.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.8% Central_Greek + 49.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.39
2 65.4% South_Polish + 34.6% Cyprian @ 1.4
3 50.6% Central_Greek + 49.4% Southwest_Russian @ 1.4
4 54.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 45.8% South_Italian @ 1.49
5 77.6% Croatian + 22.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.66
6 82.6% Moldavian + 17.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.78
7 50.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.3% East_Sicilian @ 1.81
8 54.3% Southwest_Russian + 45.7% South_Italian @ 1.82
9 58.5% Central_Greek + 41.5% Lithuanian @ 1.86
10 53.2% Central_Greek + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.92
11 78.3% Croatian + 21.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.96
12 54.3% Central_Greek + 45.7% Belorussian @ 2.02
13 60.4% Greek_Thessaly + 39.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.1
14 61.5% Polish + 38.5% Cyprian @ 2.1
15 50.9% Southwest_Russian + 49.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.11
16 75.2% Croatian + 24.8% Cyprian @ 2.15
17 53.8% Central_Greek + 46.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.22
18 80.8% Bulgarian + 19.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.24
19 76% Croatian + 24% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.25
20 80.8% Bulgarian + 19.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.31

Can someone please explain to me how do I cluster with the current balkan populations? Is a 50% baltic+north atlantic average, or above average for this region? Honestly I don't know what the hell I am , most I can understand from my results, in a very broad way , is that I'm a mongrel which stands at half distance between greeks and slavs..

Thank you in advance guys and sorry for this random post, but I'm a bit stuck in this rabbithole

[Jana]

are you from Moldovan part of Romania? Your results with updated calc

Distance to: Ghitza_von_Pigsty

2.93392229 Moldovan_South
4.22880598 Serb_SouthSerbia
4.46742655 Romanian_Moldavia_South
4.47649416 Bulgarian_Northwestern
4.83699287 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
4.95421033 Romanian_Banat
4.98192734 Serb_EastSerbia
5.01638316 Romanian_Transylvania
5.04416495 Romanian_Dobruja
5.25297059 Serb_Vojvodina
5.30158467 Romanian_Muntenia
5.30925607 Romanian_Crişana
5.37073552 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.53519647 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.68587724 Romanian_Oltenia
5.72555674 Vlach_Serbia
5.75094775 Moldovan_Central
5.85232432 Pomak_Greece
5.86627650 Bulgarian_Southwestern
5.95734001 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
5.96056205 Serb_KosovoMetohija
5.99241187 Serb_Herzegovina
5.99961665 Serb_Dalmatia
6.00003333 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
6.03126852 Serb_Lika

Target: Ghitza_von_Pigsty
Distance: 1.2064% / 1.20636867 | R2P

72.4 Romanian_Ukraine
27.6 Greek_Istanbul

[Cybele]

Is a 50% baltic+north atlantic average, or above average for this region?

Hello, welcome (cool nickname) !

This is the Romanian population Spreadsheet for Eurogenes K13.

1 North_Atlantic 24.37
2 Baltic 24.49
3 West_Med 17.09
4 West_Asian 11.28
5 East_Med 18.04
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 South_Asian 0.55
8 East_Asian 0.27
9 Siberian 0.83
10 Amerindian 0.60
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.09
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Your results look close to the average in Ro, but you have a bit more Baltic.

[Ghitza von Pigsty]

[QUOTE=Jana;7792948]are you from Moldovan part of Romania? Your results with updated calc

Yep, quite spot on. I'm from southern Moldavia. Thanks a lot Jana
Also do you have any idea what that Baltic and North Atlantic really mean? Is it literally North European descent or could it be linked to Hunter gatherer/Yamnaya heritage? I'm kinda new to this and I'm really trying to make sense of these percentages. As reference here's the breakdown for Eurogenes_ANE K7:
ANE 14.55 Pct
ASE 1.94 Pct
WHG-UHG 48.07 Pct
East_Eurasian 0.95 Pct
West_African 0.82 Pct
East_African -
ENF 33.68 Pct

Could the European neolithic farmer overlap with my eastmed/westmed/westasian components, while the ANF and WHG overlap with the Baltic + N.Atlantic Component?

[Ghitza von Pigsty]

Hello, welcome (cool nickname) !

This is the Romanian population Spreadsheet for Eurogenes K13.

1 North_Atlantic 24.37
2 Baltic 24.49
3 West_Med 17.09
4 West_Asian 11.28
5 East_Med 18.04
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 South_Asian 0.55
8 East_Asian 0.27
9 Siberian 0.83
10 Amerindian 0.60
11 Oceanian 0.18
12 Northeast_African 0.09
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Your results look close to the average in Ro, but you have a bit more Baltic.

Thanks a lot Cybele, yeah it seems so..One thing I'm not getting though, is why do i Cluster so far from RO on the K13 3d plot..Am I reading it the wrong way, or..?

[Cybele]

Thanks a lot Cybele, yeah it seems so..One thing I'm not getting though, is why do i Cluster so far from RO on the K13 3d plot..Am I reading it the wrong way, or..?

I believe is because your result is a bit closer to the Slavic results (e.g. Ukrainian) than the average Romanian. The Romanian in the 3d plot is a bit more southern shifted.

[Ghitza von Pigsty]

I believe is because your result is a bit closer to the Slavic results (e.g. Ukrainian) than the average Romanian. The Romanian in the 3d plot is a bit more southern shifted.

Yeah it makes sense...Thanks a lot, Cybele

[Tommie]

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You probably have some distant Ukrainian/Slavic ancestry down there. Do you have any known foreign ancestor?

[Ghitza von Pigsty]

You probably have some distant Ukrainian/Slavic ancestry down there. Do you have any known foreign ancestor?

Uhm, not that I'm aware of. On my dad's side I heard from an uncle that we have some distant hungarian and serbian ancestry although I don't have any records to confirm this. For what is worth my dad's paternal side relatives (2nd degree cousins, aunts and uncles) all look like the stereotypical west slavic phenotype . Same thing on my moms maternal side. The other branches of my family are on the swarthy side, typical mediterranean phenotype. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel any prejudice about that, I'm just describing how it is..

[Tommie]

Uhm, not that I'm aware of. On my dad's side I heard from an uncle that we have some distant hungarian and serbian ancestry although I don't have any records to confirm this. For what is worth my dad's paternal side relatives (2nd degree cousins, aunts and uncles) all look like the stereotypical west slavic phenotype . Same thing on my moms maternal side. The other branches of my family are on the swarthy side, typical mediterranean phenotype. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel any prejudice about that, I'm just describing how it is..

That's interesting! Thank you for your reply