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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    Honestly I have mixed feelings about the Byzantines. I truly wish Greece had become a total Venetian or Frankish principality and eventually part of Italy or France.
    Foreigners to rule us. No thanks we are not cuckolds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    Why should Greeks (on the mainland) have any loyalty to an Anatolian (Eastern) Empire? This was purely a religious conviction on the part of Orthodox Greeks who lived in continental Greece.
    Because it is our roots our whole existence. The West isnt.

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    Eastern Romans





    What both the West and the East always hated. The Crusaders almost destroyed our Empire and once again the Westerners did their best to help indirectly the Turk-Mongols to invade and occupy the whole Orthodox Asia Minor and Balkans for almost half a millennium. Eastern Romans had spit on the face the Pope who blackmailed the Empire(give it to me or the Turks will take care of you).

    I dislike nothing more in life than Greek West ass lickers(especially living in USA or North West Europe) who attack Anatolian Greeks and "Byzantium" with claims such as "they are Turks, Anatolians, Armenians" and so on, same goes for Western Europeans who claim same things. Pseudo-racist propaganda at its best!

    Saint Paisios has prophesied the lost of those who came from the seed of the Crusaders as well as the lost of all Northern Europe by Russian hands! I hope God will make it a reality!




    "First, God will punish the great enemies of Orthodoxy, which are Islamism and Catholicism. Those who are relentlessly striking Orthodoxy will now disappear. Even those who destroyed the Byzantine civilization were not the Turks who destroyed it, they were the crusaders, the Europeans, the Catholics who strengthened the Turks to destroy Byzantium. Their descendants then will be gathered there by God and they will be slaughtered."

    Πρώτα θα παιδεύσει ο Θεός τους μεγάλους εχθρούς της Ορθοδοξίας , που είναι ο Ισλαμισμός και ο Καθολικισμός . Αυτοί που αμείλικτα χτυπούν την Ορθοδοξία, τώρα θα εκλείψουν . Ακόμα και αυτοί που κατέστρεψαν τον Βυζαντινό Πολιτισμό δεν είναι οι Τούρκοι που τον κατέστρεψαν, είναι οι σταυροφόροι , οι Ευρωπαίοι , οι καθολικοί που ενίσχυσαν τους Τούρκους για να καταστρέψουν το Βυζάντιο .Τους απογόνους τους , λοιπόν , θα τους μαζέψει ο Θεός εκεί μέσα και θα σφαγούν εκεί.

    "And when the friends of Turkey (the descendants of the crusaders) NATO, will come down to help Turks and save them, then there it will be the great Conflict and they will be slaughtered."

    Κι όταν κατέβουν οι φίλοι της Τουρκίας (οι απόγονοι δηλαδή των σταυροφόρων ) το ΝΑΤΟ , για να τη σώσουν , τότε εκεί θα γίνει , η μεγάλη Σύρραξη και θα σφαγούν.

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    "In Constantinople, there will be a great war between the Russians and Europeans and a lot of blood will be spilled."

    Στην Κων/πολη θα γίνει μεγάλος πόλεμος μεταξύ των Ρώσων και των Ευρωπαίων και θα χυθεί πολύ αίμα.

    "But then the other states of Europe, namely England, France, Italy, and six-seven other EU countries, will see that Russia will grab parts, so they will say, "Why don't we go there to get some parts? "Everyone will chase the lion's share. This is how also the Europeans will enter the war ... ..The (Greek)government will decide not to send an army. It will keep the army only at borders. And it will be a great blessing not to take part. Because, whoever will take part in this war (the European) will be lost ... "... 434."

    Όμως, θα δουν τότε τα άλλα κράτη της Ευρώπης, συγκεκριμένα η Αγγλία, η Γαλλία, η Ιταλία και άλλα έξι – εφτά κράτη της ΕΟΚ, ότι η Ρωσία θα αρπάξει μέρη, οπότε θα πουν: “Δεν πάμε κι εμείς εκεί πέρα, μήπως πάρουμε κανένα κομμάτι;” Όλοι, όμως θα κυνηγούν τη μερίδα του λέοντος. Έτσι θα μπουν και οι Ευρωπαίοι στον πόλεμο…..Θα βγάλει η (ελληνική) κυβέρνηση απόφαση να μη στείλη στρατό. Θα κρατήσει στρατό μόνο στα σύνορα. Και θα είναι μεγάλη ευλογία που δε θα πάρει μέρος. Γιατί , όποιος πάρει μέρος σ΄ αυτόν τον πόλεμο (εν. τον ευρωπαϊκό), χάθηκε…»… 434.

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    And for Northern Europe.

    "The European Union will be dissolved"

    Η ΕυρωπαΙκή Ένωση θα διαλυθεί

    "The people of the North will go with the Americans, but the Russians will burn them down"

    Οι λαοί του Βορά θα πάνε με τους Αμερικανούς αλλά οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

    https://michalism.wordpress.com/2011...E%B7-%CE%B5-2/

    "Everybody will leave Russians and they will go with the Jews of America. The Russians will burn them down"

    Όλοι θα παρατήσουν τους Ρώσους και θα πάνε με τους Εβραίους της Αμερικής . Οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

    http://paterpaisios.blogspot.gr/

    "Nowadays, people are seeing everything with cunning, because they are all measured by the mind. The European spirit did a lot of evil. That's why people have became like that."

    Σήμερα οι άνθρωποι τα βλέπουν όλα με πονηριά, γιατί τα μετρούν όλα μόνο με το μυαλό. Το ευρωπαϊκό πνεύμα πολύ κακό έκανε. Αυτό είναι που σακάτεψε τους ανθρώπους.

    https://www.impantokratoros.gr/aplot...orfosh.el.aspx


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    "Saint Paisios exceeds Lenin in popularity"

    Ο Άγιος Παΐσιος ξεπερνάει τον Λένιν σε δημοτικότητα

    "Now "star" in Russia is monk of the Mount Athos, the Greek Saint (now) Paisios. Books with his speeches and his ascetic life sweep in publishing. Up to now, more than three million copies have been sold, while seven films have been filmed and an eighth is being prepared."

    Τώρα "σταρ" είναι στη Ρωσία ένας αγιορείτης μοναχός, ο Έλληνας Άγιος (πλέον) Παΐσιος. Τα βιβλία με τους λόγους του και την ασκητική ζωή του σαρώνουν εκδοτικά. Μέχρι τώρα έχουν πουληθεί περισσότερα από τρία εκατομμύρια αντίτυπα, ενώ έχουν γυριστεί ...εφτά κινηματογραφικές ταινίες και ετοιμάζεται και μια όγδοη.

    "Paisios is by far the most popular saint. By thousands the Russian believers flock to pilgrimage outside of Thessaloniki, where Paisios is buried, innumerable stories and testimonies circulate around his life and prophecies."

    Ο Παΐσιος είναι μακράν ο πιο δημοφιλής Άγιος. Κατά χιλιάδες συρρέουν οι Ρώσοι πιστοί για προσκύνημα έξω από τη Θεσσαλονίκη, όπου είναι ενταφιασμένος ο Παΐσιος, κυκλοφορούν αναρίθμητες ιστορίες και μαρτυρίες γύρω από τη ζωή και τις προφητείες του.

    "The Russians seem to be inspired by the Greek Saint, they feel to give them hope, they believe he is doing miracles."

    Ο Ρώσοι δείχνουν να εμπνέονται από τον αγιορείτη Άγιο, αισθάνονται να τους δίνει ελπίδα, πιστεύουν ότι κάνει θαύματα.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    Eastern Romans





    What both the West and the East always hated. The Crusaders almost destroyed our Empire and once again the Westerners did their best to help indirectly the Turk-Mongols to invade and occupy the whole Orthodox Asia Minor and Balkans for almost half a millennium. Eastern Romans had spit on the face the Pope who blackmailed the Empire(give it to me or the Turks will take care of you).

    I dislike nothing more in life than Greek West ass lickers(especially living in USA or North West Europe) who attack Anatolian Greeks and "Byzantium" with claims such as "they are Turks, Anatolians, Armenians" and so on, same goes for Western Europeans who claim same things. Pseudo-racist propaganda at its best!

    Saint Paisios has prophesied the lost of those who came from the seed of the Crusaders as well as the lost of all Northern Europe by Russian hands! I hope God will make it a reality!




    "First, God will punish the great enemies of Orthodoxy, which are Islamism and Catholicism. Those who are relentlessly striking Orthodoxy will now disappear. Even those who destroyed the Byzantine civilization were not the Turks who destroyed it, they were the crusaders, the Europeans, the Catholics who strengthened the Turks to destroy Byzantium. Their descendants then will be gathered there by God and they will be slaughtered."

    Πρώτα θα παιδεύσει ο Θεός τους μεγάλους εχθρούς της Ορθοδοξίας , που είναι ο Ισλαμισμός και ο Καθολικισμός . Αυτοί που αμείλικτα χτυπούν την Ορθοδοξία, τώρα θα εκλείψουν . Ακόμα και αυτοί που κατέστρεψαν τον Βυζαντινό Πολιτισμό δεν είναι οι Τούρκοι που τον κατέστρεψαν, είναι οι σταυροφόροι , οι Ευρωπαίοι , οι καθολικοί που ενίσχυσαν τους Τούρκους για να καταστρέψουν το Βυζάντιο .Τους απογόνους τους , λοιπόν , θα τους μαζέψει ο Θεός εκεί μέσα και θα σφαγούν εκεί.

    "And when the friends of Turkey (the descendants of the crusaders) NATO, will come down to help Turks and save them, then there it will be the great Conflict and they will be slaughtered."

    Κι όταν κατέβουν οι φίλοι της Τουρκίας (οι απόγονοι δηλαδή των σταυροφόρων ) το ΝΑΤΟ , για να τη σώσουν , τότε εκεί θα γίνει , η μεγάλη Σύρραξη και θα σφαγούν.

    https://www.agiosgeorgioshaidarioy.g...profities.html


    "In Constantinople, there will be a great war between the Russians and Europeans and a lot of blood will be spilled."

    Στην Κων/πολη θα γίνει μεγάλος πόλεμος μεταξύ των Ρώσων και των Ευρωπαίων και θα χυθεί πολύ αίμα.

    "But then the other states of Europe, namely England, France, Italy, and six-seven other EU countries, will see that Russia will grab parts, so they will say, "Why don't we go there to get some parts? "Everyone will chase the lion's share. This is how also the Europeans will enter the war ... ..The (Greek)government will decide not to send an army. It will keep the army only at borders. And it will be a great blessing not to take part. Because, whoever will take part in this war (the European) will be lost ... "... 434."

    Όμως, θα δουν τότε τα άλλα κράτη της Ευρώπης, συγκεκριμένα η Αγγλία, η Γαλλία, η Ιταλία και άλλα έξι – εφτά κράτη της ΕΟΚ, ότι η Ρωσία θα αρπάξει μέρη, οπότε θα πουν: “Δεν πάμε κι εμείς εκεί πέρα, μήπως πάρουμε κανένα κομμάτι;” Όλοι, όμως θα κυνηγούν τη μερίδα του λέοντος. Έτσι θα μπουν και οι Ευρωπαίοι στον πόλεμο…..Θα βγάλει η (ελληνική) κυβέρνηση απόφαση να μη στείλη στρατό. Θα κρατήσει στρατό μόνο στα σύνορα. Και θα είναι μεγάλη ευλογία που δε θα πάρει μέρος. Γιατί , όποιος πάρει μέρος σ΄ αυτόν τον πόλεμο (εν. τον ευρωπαϊκό), χάθηκε…»… 434.

    http://www.agiosxaralampos.gr/profit...ter-theofilos/


    And for Northern Europe.

    "The European Union will be dissolved"

    Η ΕυρωπαΙκή Ένωση θα διαλυθεί

    "The people of the North will go with the Americans, but the Russians will burn them down"

    Οι λαοί του Βορά θα πάνε με τους Αμερικανούς αλλά οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

    https://michalism.wordpress.com/2011...E%B7-%CE%B5-2/

    "Everybody will leave Russians and they will go with the Jews of America. The Russians will burn them down"

    Όλοι θα παρατήσουν τους Ρώσους και θα πάνε με τους Εβραίους της Αμερικής . Οι Ρώσοι θα τους κάψουν

    http://paterpaisios.blogspot.gr/

    "Nowadays, people are seeing everything with cunning, because they are all measured by the mind. The European spirit did a lot of evil. That's why people have became like that."

    Σήμερα οι άνθρωποι τα βλέπουν όλα με πονηριά, γιατί τα μετρούν όλα μόνο με το μυαλό. Το ευρωπαϊκό πνεύμα πολύ κακό έκανε. Αυτό είναι που σακάτεψε τους ανθρώπους.

    https://www.impantokratoros.gr/aplot...orfosh.el.aspx


    Great prophecies! Laughs best he who laughs last! Very soon you will see the power of Orthodoxy!


    "Saint Paisios exceeds Lenin in popularity"

    Ο Άγιος Παΐσιος ξεπερνάει τον Λένιν σε δημοτικότητα

    "Now "star" in Russia is monk of the Mount Athos, the Greek Saint (now) Paisios. Books with his speeches and his ascetic life sweep in publishing. Up to now, more than three million copies have been sold, while seven films have been filmed and an eighth is being prepared."

    Τώρα "σταρ" είναι στη Ρωσία ένας αγιορείτης μοναχός, ο Έλληνας Άγιος (πλέον) Παΐσιος. Τα βιβλία με τους λόγους του και την ασκητική ζωή του σαρώνουν εκδοτικά. Μέχρι τώρα έχουν πουληθεί περισσότερα από τρία εκατομμύρια αντίτυπα, ενώ έχουν γυριστεί ...εφτά κινηματογραφικές ταινίες και ετοιμάζεται και μια όγδοη.

    "Paisios is by far the most popular saint. By thousands the Russian believers flock to pilgrimage outside of Thessaloniki, where Paisios is buried, innumerable stories and testimonies circulate around his life and prophecies."

    Ο Παΐσιος είναι μακράν ο πιο δημοφιλής Άγιος. Κατά χιλιάδες συρρέουν οι Ρώσοι πιστοί για προσκύνημα έξω από τη Θεσσαλονίκη, όπου είναι ενταφιασμένος ο Παΐσιος, κυκλοφορούν αναρίθμητες ιστορίες και μαρτυρίες γύρω από τη ζωή και τις προφητείες του.

    "The Russians seem to be inspired by the Greek Saint, they feel to give them hope, they believe he is doing miracles."

    Ο Ρώσοι δείχνουν να εμπνέονται από τον αγιορείτη Άγιο, αισθάνονται να τους δίνει ελπίδα, πιστεύουν ότι κάνει θαύματα.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPASTRATOSELS26 View Post
    Because it is our roots our whole existence. The West isnt.
    I'm a Westerner as were my grandparents. What damn allegiance do I have to the East (as a descendant of Peloponnesian Greeks) other than being attacked or exploited? First by the Persians, then by Turks. Hell the Western section of the Peloponnese was even abandoned by the savior Eastern Romans for hundreds of years. Let's be real this is purely an Orthodox thing. I know it because I have relatives that prescribe to this nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kleenex View Post
    Honestly I have mixed feelings about the Byzantines. I truly wish Greece had become a total Venetian or Frankish principality and eventually part of Italy or France.
    Romans not Byzantines.

    Romans are from Anatolia, a Thracian Troyan Army who mixed with Paleo-Italian people and Celts.

    NEITHER of those are in Italy anymore, except Southern Italy, Sardinia etc.. (for which reason they don't speak Latin or Greek)

    Eastern Rome was Thracians + Greeks + Anatolian mixed populace.

    WHAT IN THE FUCKING WORLD THEY HAVE IN COMMON WITH BARBARIAN FRANKISH AND OTHER GERMANIC PEOPLE? WHO CAME WITH ATTILA?!? from Scandinavia and Far East!

    Nothing, except Romans were in War with them since ever even today observe them with disgust and contempt.

    Modern Westerners are Westerners in that % they conquered in 5th century A.D. Gauls, Hispania was scarcely populated and observed as primitive and empty territory of Roman Empire, Anatolia and Greece was major component of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gedza View Post
    Romans not Byzantines. Romans are from Anatolia, a Thracian Troyan Army who mixed with Paleo-Italian people and Celts.
    Virgil's Aeneid is a myth, bro. He was trying to legitimize the Romans by linking them to Greco-Trojan antiquity. It is only a story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellenas View Post
    Eastern Romans


    What both the West and the East always hated. The Crusaders almost destroyed our Empire and once again the Westerners did their best to help indirectly the Turk-Mongols to invade and occupy the whole Orthodox Asia Minor and Balkans for almost half a millennium. Eastern Romans had spit on the face the Pope who blackmailed the Empire(give it to me or the Turks will take care of you).
    Because you Greeks never knew how to Run an Roman Empire, it wasn't your Empire, it wasn't Modern Italian either ... but Anatolian, Thracian, Illyrian, Dacian etc.. Italy was ours up to 5th century when Germans massacred everything.

    Greeks were the culture of Rome but not the sword.

    Turks, Scythians, Germans ... all butchered us now we are Serbs, Bulgarians, Turks...

    Romans are Dead

    But don't you dare to call that Empire Greek!

    Roman Empire was LATIN Empire (not Modern Latin Impostors, but now extinct Latin people Vlachs)

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    Virgil's Aeneid is a myth, bro. He was trying to legitimize the Romans by linking them to Greco-Trojan antiquity. It is only a story.
    Trojans were not Greeks .

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