Al Andalus (Morisco Kit)

[FilhoV]

Granada, Andalusia
R1b1a and U63ba



Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit ZZ2243872

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.69
2 West_Med 29.3
3 East_Med 27.4
4 Northeast_African 6.41
5 South_Asian 3.2
6 Baltic 0.64
7 Oceanian 0.19
8 Red_Sea 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 15.7
2 North_Italian 15.77
3 Spanish_Andalucia 15.94
4 Spanish_Murcia 16.66
5 Spanish_Extremadura 17.03
6 Spanish_Valencia 17.1
7 Portuguese 17.68
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.99
9 West_Sicilian 18
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.5
11 Spanish_Aragon 19.07
12 Spanish_Galicia 19.15
13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.36
14 Spanish_Cantabria 20.5
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.95
16 South_Italian 22.32
17 Southwest_French 22.6
18 East_Sicilian 22.79
19 Italian_Jewish 23.02
20 Greek_Thessaly 23.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% Italian_Jewish + 43.1% French_Basque @ 10.5
2 51.9% Libyan_Jewish + 48.1% French_Basque @ 10.54
3 55.8% Algerian_Jewish + 44.2% French_Basque @ 10.83
4 51.8% Tunisian_Jewish + 48.2% French_Basque @ 10.88
5 61.4% Spanish_Aragon + 38.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 10.95
6 56.5% Spanish_Aragon + 43.5% Italian_Jewish @ 10.98
7 57.7% Spanish_Aragon + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.15
8 61.7% Spanish_Aragon + 38.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.23
9 68.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 31.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.27
10 64% Spanish_Andalucia + 36% Italian_Jewish @ 11.27
11 69.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 30.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.48
12 65.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 34.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.5
13 66% Spanish_Valencia + 34% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.5
14 61.3% Spanish_Valencia + 38.7% Italian_Jewish @ 11.62
15 59.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 40.9% Italian_Jewish @ 11.63
16 64.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 35.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 11.76
17 66.5% Spanish_Valencia + 33.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.76
18 62.7% Spanish_Murcia + 37.3% Italian_Jewish @ 11.77
19 62.6% Spanish_Valencia + 37.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 11.79
20 55.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 44.5% French_Basque @ 11.83

[xripkan]

Very interesting results! I checked his K15 and Dodecad K12b and he seems somehow half Sephardite and half Iberian converted to Islam.

[Erronkari]

Very intetesting!
More italian than iberian genetically talking.

[Lucas]

Very intetesting!
More italian than iberian genetically talking.

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

[Voskos]

We'd need a kit from exactly before to see how the dna got influenced by the settlers.

[Token]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

This has also been perceived by geneticists. They bring up the possibility of Conversos migrating en masse to Latin America.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07748-z
We also detect South/East Mediterranean ancestry across Latin America, probably stemming mostly from the clandestine colonial migration of Christian converts of non-European origin (Conversos).

[Chaos One]

Hmmm...if he has in fact Moorish background, shouldn't his Red Sea be somewhat higher than only 0.15? It's weird to think it would only affect East Med (which is not THAT high between Moroccans for example - not to a point to make it close to West Med mixing with Iberians) and not Red Sea.

[Erronkari]

This is important remark. I have feelign that those Spaniards who migrated to America were on average more "Italian" than modern ones. Many times when I make reports for Latinos there are in their Euro part quite Italian (for example Italian component in K36 is higher than Iberian, which is not the case for original Spaniards) and I'm not talking of course about Argentina / Urugyay/ Brazilia which are Italian admixed by recent migrations but such case is for Puertoricans many times.
Any theory for that?

Exactly!
In the case of puerto-ricans/mexicans/centralamericans (but also here in the south) it seems that they have an important sephardic jewish background because in colonial times apparently many spaniards who traveled as conquistadores/adelantados had sephardic ancestry.
Probably many of them were cripto-jews or at least partly sephardic.
In many Gedmatch calculators they have some italian as the main population, and we must remember that sephardic cluster is just next to sicilian and others of Italy.

Now I see that Token said the same and better explained than me.
Even it's just a theory, not a fact I think, but it sounds an accurate hyphotesis.

[Gallop]

I have carried out the comparison between your kit and mine. He was Andalusí and I am Andalusian.
What do you think? I honestly do not know how to analyze it.

[FilhoV]

We'd need a kit from exactly before to see how the dna got influenced by the settlers.

GED match results from bronze age Portuguese from lower Alentejo
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Population
North_Atlantic 46.80
Baltic 4.86
West_Med 45.59
West_Asian -
East_Med 2.75
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -