The Dutch have the best non-native English language skills in a survey of 1 million

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Dutch have best English skills for second year in survey of 1 million

09/11/17

The Dutch have the world’s best non-native English skills for the second year running in a survey by Swiss-based global language training company Education First. The Netherlands came first in its annual English Proficiency Index ahead of Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.

Eight countries in total earned the ‘very high’ proficiency distinction, with South Africa and Singapore the only countries outside Europe.

‘High levels of English proficiency go hand in hand with Europe’s multiculturalism, economic integration, tourism, and mobility – even at a time when some Europeans are questioning their common project and the value of globalisation itself,’ said the EPI report.

The report added that very-high-proficiency countries tend to share three characteristics: they teach English as a required foreign language from primary school, focus on communication in the classroom rather than on rigid grammatical rules, and have well-travelled citizens who are also exposed to English on television.

The ranking was based on more than one million people being quizzed on their English skills in 2016. The participants were not randomly selected, but were people who volunteered to take the tests, which means that the results are biased towards people who are interested in language learning.

In addition, the index is based purely on testing reading and listening skills using multiple choice questions rather than the spoken or written word. However, EF EPI said that the sample was ‘balanced between male and female respondents and represents adult language learners from a broad range of ages’. Only countries with a minimum of 400 test takers were included in the index, it added.

Read more at DutchNews.nl: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2017/1...-of-1-million/

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English is no longer a foreign language in NL, but it has a unique character here

17/01/18



Are the Dutch now native speakers of English, and is Dutch-English a distinctive thing? Deborah Nicholls-Lee meets linguistics expert Alison Edwards to find some answers.

English is no longer a foreign language in the Netherlands, asserts Leiden University’s Alison Edwards, who has published widely on the subject. ‘If you can assume that you can walk down the street and that the hairdresser will be able to speak to you in English, and the bus driver, and the taxi driver, then functionally it’s a second language not a foreign language.’

This view is perhaps unsurprising. The Dutch speak, it is claimed, the best English in the world. They often prefer speaking English when foreigners try to practise their Dutch, and the higher education sector here is rapidly being anglicised, with more than half of all university courses now taught in English.

Distinctive

Despite all the accolades, Dutch-English is distinct – in grammar, idiom, and accent – from the language used by native speakers, and this has divided opinion.

On one side, liberal academics have spent a long time validating new forms of English and rejecting an imperialistic view of linguistics. After all, there are now more non-native speakers of English than native, and even mother tongue speakers use a huge variety of forms. But even the Dutch themselves aren’t persuaded.

‘It’s a well-meaning idea, this idea of democratising English in different places,’ says Edwards, ‘but people don’t seem to want it. If you ask Dutch people, do you prefer to aim for British English or Dutch English? They will always say British English and they are really critical of anything that sounds Dutch-English or has a strong Dutch accent.’

Popular culture has made a folk devil of football manager Louis van Gaal and his bewildering Dutch-English, and even Mark Rutte has come under fire. ‘This is a guy who runs a country and speaks with other world leaders in English every day and gets stuff done,’ says Edwards, in his defence. ‘His English is perfectly functional, perfectly communicative.’

For the Dutch, though, it’s all about trying to speak English like Frans Timmermans (deputy president of the European commission), explains Edwards, who polled hundreds of native Dutch speakers as part of her 2014 thesis English in the Netherlands. Functions, forms and attitudes. Over 60% of her respondents agreed with the statement ‘When I speak English to outsiders, they should not be able to recognise where I’m from’ .

Does Dunglish exist?

Yet, in most cases, Dutch-English has a perceptible quality that identifies the speaker as non-native. Does this make it a language though? Edwards spent some time compiling a corpus of Dutch English to gauge how much English in the Netherlands deviates from standardised forms.

Idiosyncrasies included front-loaded sentences: Especially for our external clients, this could be an interesting offer; redundant prepositions: to discuss about; and the use of an adjective instead of an adverb: The aim is to organise the services as efficient as possible. False friends also play an important part, such as public for audience and eventual for possible.

However, Edwards became disillusioned with such approaches. ‘It was a very liberal project, but it became really conservative because you were trying to put people into this box. So, it kind of backfired.’

She also found that Dutch people don’t think they speak Dutch-English. ‘For them, it’s not a variety, so it doesn’t really make sense in persisting to call it a variety.’

It’s social, not linguistic

In fact, focusing on Dutch-English as a set of grammatical rules, says Edwards, misses the point. ‘What counts as a language or a dialect is a political and social question. It’s not a linguistic question.’

The Scandinavian languages, for example, are mutually intelligible but they have different names, due to what Edwards describes as ‘nation state building and a national mythology’. Conversely, languages that come under the umbrella of ‘Chinese’ are as diverse as German and French but, she says, it’s in the government’s interest to promote uniformity.

The same can be said of Dutch-English. ‘When a Dutch person uses English with another Dutch person, it’s got nothing to do with communication,’ she argues. ‘That’s a part of the purpose of the language, but the other purpose is social: in order to share a culture, share your values, position yourself socially.’

Non-native English is not necessarily worse

Far from being inferior, Dutch-English is becoming the English of choice in some spheres. Research has shown, says Edwards, that incoming international students choose the Netherlands, not just because it is cheaper, but because they deem the English to be ‘easier’. ‘The Netherlands has become an English-speaking education destination,’ she says, much like Singapore in Asia.

There has been talk recently of native speakers actually causing confusion in international, English-speaking environments. In the European parliament, for example, where simple, imperfect language is the default, the complex, idiomatic English of the native speaker can, some claim, lead to a breakdown in communication. Apparently, once the native speaker has left the room, business often runs more smoothly.

With a nation of enthusiastic speakers and an expanding global market, Dutch- English could one day be our second language too. Could we soon be front loading our sentences and shunting the verb to the end? It’s eventual. And, if so, scholars like Edwards will have plenty to discuss about.

Read more at DutchNews.nl: https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/20...haracter-here/

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Spreek Nederlands met mij: A week of eschewing English

The Netherlands’ enthusiasm for speaking English leaves many newcomers struggling to learn the language. Could wearing a badge insisting on Dutch shake things up?

Read more at DutchNews.nl: https://www.dutchnews.nl/features/20...ewing-english/

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I've always noticed that the Dutch are the best non-native English speakers, followed closely by the Swedes, Norwegians, Finns, and Danish. A lot of them speak English very fluently and have high proficiency rates in English.

The recent EF English Proficiency Index placed the Netherlands first when comparing the English skills of 72 countries.

Why is that, I am wondering, looking for my native Austria on the list, which only came in at number 8 behind a bunch of Scandinavian countries and Luxembourg.

Apparently, next to ranking among the tallest people in the world, the Dutch are also better at speaking English than any other non-native country.

According to research between 90% and 93% of the Dutch population claims to be able to hold a conversation in English.

How do they do that?

https://dutchreview.com/expat/learn-...aking-english/

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The Netherlands has the highest English-proficiency in the world: narrowly beating Denmark and Sweden, according to the English Proficiency Index (EPI).

Some nine in 10 Dutch people speak English as a second language.

According to the latest EU langage report (2012), 94 percent of Dutch people could speak two languages, well above the EU average of 54 percent.

Considering more than half of the population also speak German, many must speak at least three languages.

The Netherlands is one of the top countries where residents are more likely to learn a language at school, around 91 percent, and via conversation.

https://www.expatica.com/nl/about/ba...rlands-108857/

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[Dandelion]

But to truly get at the heart of a Dutch person, speaking Dutch is the way. Dutch people still don't speak English to one another and their use of the language is quite purist at times.

Still, the knowledge of English is good, all thanks to subtitling films and series and the fact English is so close to Dutch linguistically. To me English was the first foreign language I was able to experiment with and use in conversation, despite having had two years of French (introductory French at elementary). I hadn't had one lesson of English yet, but already I could use it in practice. It's a very rewarding language.

[Marinus]

I always feel very at home whenever I visit the Netherlands.

I love all of you Water Germans <3

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I love the Dutch too. I think they're the coolest people in Europe and very likeable. I also think they're sophisticated and intelligent as they're polyglots.

I've noticed that Dutch sounds similar to English in some parts, and more closer to German in other parts.


1:08 (I hear similarities with English words.) We say 'hello' in English, and the Dutch say 'hallo'.


I think English sounds softer than Dutch due to the Norman influence. Here's a native English speaker from England.