Immigrant and Native fertility in Europe (quite suprising)

[Bellbeaking]

the native collumn also includes 2nd gen immigrants*

the source is the Eurostat; I checked some of them briefly and they where pretty accurate barring a few .1%'s



This is quite shocking. In France 20% of Births are to Non-European mothers, not counting 2nd+ gen immigrants. This means we really are at the end of Europe as we know it, there really isn't a turning point and we are one generation away from countries like France being 30-45% non-European for better or worse, non european women have 3.33 births for every 1.79 French women have which is very suprising. 25% of Births in Sweden are to Non European women.

This data also is interesting; Fertility correlates (-ve correlation w/ IQ )

[de Burgh II]

Its unfortunate that we live in a world where greed and spinelessness is paramount among politicians /elites who use their own citizens as meat shields for the slaughterhouse. Nevertheless, for every sacrifice made brings in a better, more ideal beginning once the purging of corruption settles down in its mist.

[Kamal900]

That's the results of decades of anti-White shaming and liberal policies.

[Bellbeaking]

That's the results of decades of anti-White shaming and liberal policies.

Its unfortunate that we live in a world where greed and spinelessness is paramount among politicians /elites who use their own citizens as meat shields for the slaughterhouse. Nevertheless, for every sacrifice made brings in a better, more ideal beginning once the purging of corruption settles down in its mist.

I think this problem cannot be layed at the feet at solely the Left. The White left has very little sense of tribalism, and fought for the world rather then their own 'people' (as they do not believe they have a 'people'). Meanwhile the Right was not willing to fight this culture war, they fully retreated on this issue, because there is no real benifit of fighting immigration and thus being accused of racism, when they can just fight on the economic front and get earn themselves a shit tonne of money thanks to lobbyists and special interests 'favours' once they leave office. Restrictions on Unions mean 3rd world immigration is great source of free labour, its actually terrible for the economy in the long run, because Non EU immigrants are a net drain, but in the short term cheap labour is great for buisness. The problems we have in the west right now are due to this symbiosis between the political wings, both left and right wing parties seem to have embrace left wing immigration policies + fairly right wing economics, which where never really that popular with the public.

You get unpersonned if you publicly display dissatisfaction with the status quo explicitly, so instead people display discontent by voting for things like Brexit, which is a proxy for anti immigration and nationalism, but doesn't really accomplish much.

Regardless the Europe we know is obviously gone, may as well hope things just don't go to badly in the long run.

[Bellbeaking]

Germany is citizens only, many 1st gen immigrants will have citizenship, so this reduces how bad (or good depending on your views) it is there.

[Tooting Carmen]

In some countries the disparities are quite big, others not so much. I assume in Lithuania that most non-EU immigrants are Russians, aren't they?

[Bellbeaking]

In some countries the disparities are quite big, others not so much. I assume in Lithuania that most non-EU immigrants are Russians, aren't they?

Yup probably Russia/UKR/Bel Immigrants.

[Bellbeaking]

wasps isotipic carbon

[Tooting Carmen]

Btw, in many Balkan countries many of the 'native' births are actually Gypsies.

[leonj]

demographics of EU is changing