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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    My rough guess would be:

    Group 1 - +90% European
    Group 2 - 75% European on average
    Group 3 - 60-70% European



    Do you agree with that?
    Yes.

    I think he excluded a considerable portion of Brazilians who look blacker than these examples. Neymar, for example, is among the whiter spectrum of ''blacks'' in Brazil (even if these definitions can vary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecoroman View Post
    I chose the main 3 groups of Brazil.
    Group 1. whites around 30% of Brazil.
    Group 2. Caucasian pardos 40% of brazil
    Group 3. Mulattos 20% of Brazil.

    Remaining 10% = others. (mainly natives. Blacks and Asians)
    I think the main 4 groups in Brazil genetically are as follow (based on the degree of European admixture):

    1- Predominantly European people (70-100% European) - ~50% of the population
    2 - Balanced Pardos (50-70% European) - 30% of the population
    3 - Blacks (35-55% European) - 15% of the population
    4- Others - 5% of the population

    As you can see there's overlap between these groups and my criteria is arbitrary, but I think it's a good criteria since its based on genetics rather than in just subjective physical observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    I'd stick out in all of them, i have a very broad face and far set eyes that are quite rare among Southern Europeans. Closest to group 1 anyway.
    Me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    I think the main 4 groups in Brazil genetically are as follow (based on the degree of European admixture):

    1- Predominantly European people (70-100% European) - ~50% of the population
    2 - Balanced Pardos (50-70% European) - 30% of the population
    3 - Blacks (35-55% European) - 15% of the population
    4- Others - 5% of the population

    As you can see there's overlap between these groups and my criteria is arbitrary, but I think it's a good criteria since its based on genetics rather than in just subjective physical observations.
    Good percentages. I like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    I think the main 4 groups in Brazil genetically are as follow (based on the degree of European admixture):

    1- Predominantly European people (70-100% European) - ~50% of the population
    2 - Balanced Pardos (50-70% European) - 30% of the population
    3 - Blacks (35-55% European) - 15% of the population
    4- Others - 5% of the population

    As you can see there's overlap between these groups and my criteria is arbitrary, but I think it's a good criteria since its based on genetics rather than in just subjective physical observations.
    I don't think that it is right to put colonos in the same group as other white Brazilians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    I don't think that it is right to put colonos in the same group as other white Brazilians
    It's hard to separate this way though.

    For example, is Roberto Rivelino a ''colono''? He is 100% European and of recent stock, but he is from a big city and looks much darker than what is common among colonos. He passes much better among Colonial Portuguese-Brazilians than among Tyrolean colonos. It's just a random example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    It's hard to separate this way though.

    For example, is Roberto Rivelino a ''colono''? He is 100% European and of recent stock, but he is from a big city and looks much darker than what is common among colonos. He passes much better among Colonial Portuguese-Brazilians than among Tyrolean colonos. It's just a random example.
    In my home city, colono is only used to refer to people of North Italian and/or German background. My mother called everything else 'pelo-duro'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    In my home city, colono is only used to refer to people of North Italian and/or German background. My mother called everything else 'pelo-duro'.
    Exactly. We use "colono" to make refernce to germans descendants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    In my home city, colono is only used to refer to people of North Italian and/or German background. My mother called everything else 'pelo duro'.
    Well, where my paternal family comes from (ES countryside) is similar. ''Colonos'' are the ones who descend from ''Trentino'' people (Italians and Germans from Tyrol), Pomeranians and Northern Italians. But there are even Romanians and Slovaks there and some people mixed with white colonials.

    Difficult to differentiate; is someone of purely Piedmontese descent born in So Paulo city a ''colono''?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    My rough guess would be:

    Group 1 - +90% European
    Group 2 - 75% European on average
    Group 3 - 60-70% European

    Do you agree with that?
    I'm not even brazilean but could easily stick around group 2th

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