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    Coming relatively late compared to Croatians or Poles the first Armenian settlers arrived in Hungary in the 13th century. At least that is what the first records about a settlement named Terra Arminium suggest. Some chronicles also mention Armenians coming to the Carpathian Basin alongside Árpád’s army, but probably only in smaller numbers. The first direct contact between Hungarians and Armenians was when King Andrew II’s crusaders reached Armenia. After the conquest, Andrew II intended to marry his son to the daughter of Armenian king Levon II. The Hungarian king returned to his homeland, bringing a considerable number of Armenian settlers to the area of Esztergom: that was the region where Terra Arminium was founded. The most obvious signs marking Armenian population can be found in the names of settlements, like the famous Örményes (“örmény” means Armenian in Hungarian). Another wave of Armenian immigrants worth mentioning came to Transylvania between the 11th and 14th centuries — though there are not too many sources about them. They fled to Hungary from the disasters striking their homeland: the Seljuq assault in 1064, the Mongolian raids in 1236 — which reached Hungary as well, only five years later — and an earthquake destroying the city of Ani. The population of the City of 1001 Churches moved to the Caucasian region first, continuing their journey through Crimea and Moldavia, finally ending up in Hungary.

    The first time when Armenians were considered full members of the Hungarian society was after 1672 when they received a right to settle and certain privileges from Prince Mihály Apafi. The main reason for their flight was the attempted uprising against Romanian Prince Gheorge Dúca, which was defeated with Ottoman help, and many Armenian officers took part in it. The cruellest reprisal threatened them, so they sought shelter in Transylvania.

    Concerning their professions, most of the Armenian settlers were mostly craftsmen, e.g. skinners, tanners and merchants. The skills of Armenians on the field of tanning was legendary, and they have dominated almost the entire skin market in Hungary, especially in Transylvania. Thanks to their contribution to building the Hungarian economy and their professionalism in commerce, more than 50 Armenian families received or purchased noble rank by the end of the 19th century. Their society, however, had different customs from the customs of the Hungarian population, as the Armenian communities were partly ruled by the priesthood, who represented not only clerical but also political power.

    The greatest Armenian participation in the Hungarian history was probably the War of Independence in 1848-’49, when more than 200 soldiers fought on the Hungarian side. These include officers Ernő Kiss and Vilmos Lázár, who were both executed in Arad among the Thirteen.

    There have been several artists in Hungary from Armenian origin who became famous as Hungarians, such as dramatist Gergely Csiky, award-winning actor Gábor Agárdy or world-famous animation director Marcell Jankovics.

    Notable Hungarians of Armenian background

    General Ernő Kiss (1799–1849) (ethnic Armenian), one of the main figures of the Hungarian Revolution of 1848, and one of the 13 Martyrs of Arad



    General Vilmos Lázár (1817–1849) (ethnic Armenian) another one of the main figures of the Hungarian Revolution of 1848, and also one of the 13 Martyrs of Arad



    General János Czetz hu:Czetz János (1822-1904) (ethnic Armenian), a prominent Hungarian freedom fighter, chief-of-staff of Hungarian army


    Gábor Agárdy (born Gábor Arklian) 1922 – 2006 “actor of the nation” (the highest civil rank and honor, an actor can have in Hungary)awarded the 2000 Lifetime Award: Actor of the Hungarian Nation.


    Erika Marozsán (born 1972) famous Hungarian actress of Armenian background



    Tigran Vardanjan (born 26 March 1989) is a former competitive figure skater who represented Hungary. He is the 2007-2009 Hungarian national champion. Coached by his parents, Armenian-born Gurgen Vardanjan and Jeranjak Ipakjan, he trained in Budapest and occasionally in Nottingham, England. He is a student at the Budapest College of Communication and Business.


    https://dailynewshungary.com/minorit...y-6-armenians/
    https://www.peopleofar.com/2012/09/0...ound/#comments

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    The most famous hungarian armenian:



    Unfortunatelly he did many bad things.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Szálasi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    The most famous hungarian armenian:



    Unfortunatelly he did many bad things.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Szálasi
    Born the son of a soldier in Kassa, Abaúj-Torna County, Kingdom of Hungary (now Košice, Slovakia) of mixed Armenian (the surname of his great-grandfather was Salossian), German, Hungarian (one grandparent), Slovak and Rusyn ancestry. His Armenian ancestors settled down in Ebesfalva, Transylvania during the reign of Prince Michael I Apafi. Szálasi's grandfather, who participated as a honvéd in the Hungarian Revolution of 1848, married a German woman from Vienna, and their son, Ferenc Szálasi, Sr. (born 1866) attended a military cadet school in Kassa and later became an official in the Honvédség. Szálasi's brothers, Béla, Károly and Rezső also served in the army.

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    Armenians just as Kabars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Jews, Jász people were all very successful cases of Asiatic people contributing positively to the history of the Hungarian nation. When many outsiders only think of major German and Slavic contribution to the history of Hungary, these Easterners also served our country exemplary and any modern Hungarian is grateful to them.

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    Thank you for this information. I knew there were Hungarians of Armenian ancestry, but nothing else about it.

    According to C.A, Macartney in his book The Magyars In the Ninth Century, the Armenians knew the Sabartoi Asphaloi by the name Sevordik and there is some history between them.

    Best Regards,

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    Historically Armenian immigrants to Hungary always did good things for Hungary and as stated were amongst the 13 Martyrs of Arad.

    There was never historically any beef between these 2 countries, hopefully any recent misunderstandings will settle down and the
    historical good will restore itself.
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