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    Fewer and fewer European countries are run by left-leaning governments

    TEN years ago almost half of the 27 countries that now make up the European Union, including Germany, Britain and Italy, were ruled by left-wing governments. Today, following the defeat of the ruling Socialists in Portugal's general election on June 5th, the left is in charge of just five: Spain, Greece, Austria, Slovenia and Cyprus. In Spain, by far the largest of these, polls suggest the Socialists will be removed from office at an election that must be held by next March. There are many theories for the left's weakness in Europe. One is simply that left-wing parties struggle when times are hard. Our chart shows the number of left-wing governments in the EU-27 countries over the past couple of decades against the annual GDP growth rate in the region. The growth figure is shown with a two-year lag, the hypothesis being that economic changes take time to have political effects. So the five left-wing governments this year are shown against the growth (or, in this case, contraction) figures for 2009.

    (Methodological note: in countries with ruling coalitions, governments are considered "left-wing" when the leading party is of the left and not otherwise. So Germany's "grand coalition" of 2005-09, comprising the centre-right Christian Democrats and the centre-left Social Democrats, does not count as the CDU was the larger party.)

    Source: The Economist

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    Personally.. it's a shame.. but they only have themselves to blame.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    They never mention the Financial and banking system, or the fact that the "conservative governments" made social cuts, society more asocial and worse for the working and lower classes, but not a substantial change otherwise neither.

    Neoliberal and Neoconservative menials of the Plutocracy are as bad or even much worse, the real and healthy alternative can be only a more fundamental change in politics, even a systemic change or at least reform.

    With this Financial and money system, the Europeans cannot flourish, neither can the USA, which made more debts with its Neoconservative than with its Liberal government...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    They never mention the Financial and banking system, or the fact that the "conservative governments" made social cuts, society more asocial and worse for the working and lower classes, but not a substantial change otherwise neither.

    Neoliberal and Neoconservative menials of the Plutocracy are as bad or even much worse, the real and healthy alternative can be only a more fundamental change in politics, even a systemic change or at least reform.

    With this Financial and money system, the Europeans cannot flourish, neither can the USA, which made more debts with its Neoconservative than with its Liberal government...

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    The so called conservative parties do the same dirty job of the leftwing parties. There's no difference at all with respect to EU treachery, financial disasters, denationalification and other stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svanhild View Post
    The so called conservative parties do the same dirty job of the leftwing parties. There's no difference at all with respect to EU treachery, financial disasters, denationalification and other stuff.
    It's much worse: germanification

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    Chateaubriand: exactly. While some of the policies may be wise (fiscal restraint and the Rhineland Model come to mind - and I really appreciate those too as these are not just "German"but also applicable to the other Germanic countries like the Netherlands) - others are harmful to the rest of Europe.

    Germany's Nazi tauma (their crusade against anything that is nationalist) has become not just a national trauma but a crusade under which we must all suffer and has become a policy that is now inflicted upon us by Germany and not the other way around.

    Their fight against anything even related to free speech is legendary. Not to mention the fact that there are two major financial centres in Europe that effed us all over.. one of them being in Frankfurt (coincidentally also the seat of the ECB)..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chateaubriand View Post
    It's much worse: germanification
    In fact Germans have enough trying to manage their own country. European delusions consist on that: most believed developed European countries could not only to pay the bills but also inspire a sustainable healthy development into poorest ones. The true is that one of the crucial country of that group(Spain) generated and evolved an unhealthy unbalanced economy during its EU (and specially since evilish Euro creation) years. What an expensive piece of shit EU is!

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    So my message to the Germans is this: don't blame your shit on us. It's your trauma. Go to a collective shrink and deal with it and seriously get over it.. the guy was an Austrian bum, failed painter, even more failed architect and meth addict anyway whose only moment of success in life (before the cartel of big industrialists and banksters frauded him into the position of Chancellor) was that he had fought in the German Army (thus refusing to serve his own country -- a man without loyalties to boot) and made it to the rank of Corporal.

    You know.. that's why elections are so handy. This time you know what not to vote for.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chateaubriand View Post
    It's much worse: germanification
    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Germany's Nazi tauma (their crusade against anything that is nationalist) has become not just a national trauma but a crusade under which we must all suffer and has become a policy that is now inflicted upon us by Germany and not the other way around.
    And here's the next crapload of batshit. The EU and all of its prior constructs like the Völkerbund are/were allied inventions with the goal to hold down Germany and embed it as the cash cow. Same goes for the origins of UN. The Nazi trauma you're talking about was implanted into German heads by means of reeducation and propaganda by the winning powers. What irony that the winner side is blaming the loser side for ruining the continent. The matter of fact is that allied ideology lead to the mess we're in right now. That's the reason why France, the Netherlands and Britain are as much fucked up as Germany with respect to mass immigration, political correctness, moral degeneration and cultural alienation.

    Don't distort reality, muppets. Your side has won the war. You formed post-war Europe according to your own will and your own ideas. No evil Nazis, no evil German nationalists stood in your way. All what has happened happened with 100% advocacy of the winning powers. You're entirely responsible for the problems and the deadlock we're in. By the end of WW2, Europe was an European continent with few immigrants, no political correctness and no alienation. But too many Joe McCarthy's and too many Civis Batavi's had a say on European matters. You can see the results when you open the door in any larger Western-European town.

    But look how corwardly and cheap they act for not wanting to take the responsibility for the negative development of Europe. Their own ideological forethinkers and godfathers were the gravediggers, yet they blame the Germans. You can't lower yourselves even more.

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