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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Happy dreaming: those communists of yesterday are now "traditionalists" ? I don't hold you for naive but you might want to give it a good thought. The presenter is Eastern European btw. Romanian. The fact is that (part 1) Putin supports those Muslims and in part 3: the lack of contraceptives is due to their policies which are "socially conservative" in a perverse way since there is no actual respect for human life but only a strict legalism. If such a crisis, a government refuses to act, than it has nothing do with social conservatism but just with a general disrespect for human life - particularly when combined with a deliberate lack of sex ed and legal actions against NGO's that seek to assist victims and denying victims access to proper medication. Where I come from, sadism isn't part of the traditional culture.

    The best steps for Europe would be too hold on (and take the necessary reforms that set up a patriottic Right while dismantling the Left) and simply outlive Russia. We'll then have the time to start deporting the migrants.
    Well the thing is that number of abortions has fallen from 4,1 mln in 1991 to 520 thousands. Even if adjusted to a fall of live births relative number still has dropped by a great margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Well the thing is that number of abortions has fallen from 4,1 mln in 1991 to 520 thousands. Even if adjusted to a fall of live births relative number still has dropped by a great margin.
    That's the official story now. I guess and even if: the Russian abortion rate is a multitude of the American rate (which is the single largest aborteur in the West).



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Happy dreaming: those communists of yesterday are now "traditionalists" ? I don't hold you for naive but you might want to give it a good thought.
    Yes. Communism has a lot of shades. The liberal-leaning, hyper-Jewish, and strictly anti-traditional faction of communists was gone after Stalin came to power and forced Lev Bronstein (aka Trotsky) to emmigrate. In meanwhile, this faction of marxists became influencial in the west especially since the 1960s. The EU itself was created by the trotskyists (Altiero Spinelli and Coudenhove-Kalergi). Nowadays they don't refer to themselves as "Marxists", and prefer economic liberalism rather communism, but they are still the same anti-Europeans that they used to be, some even having openly communist past (like Federica Mogherini - EU's foreign office representative...). Even if Russia is ruled by former communists, their communists (stalinist and post-stalinist) are much lesser evil than the western ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    The fact is that (part 1) Putin supports those Muslims
    If you mean the muslims living in their original homelands, then that's a good thing. If you mean the ones who move to bigger cities - then it is not, but they are still "Russians" in the civic meaning of this term, and actual Russians as opposed to "new Europeans".

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    and in part 3: the lack of contraceptives is due to their policies which are "socially conservative" in a perverse way since there is no actual respect for human life but only a strict legalism.
    Agreed. That's still better than the western policies, which aren't in the least "conservative".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Yes. Communism has a lot of shades. The liberal-leaning, hyper-Jewish, and strictly anti-traditional faction of communists was gone after Stalin came to power and forced Lev Bronstein (aka Trotsky) to emmigrate. In meanwhile, this faction of marxists became influencial in the west especially since the 1960s. The EU itself was created by the trotskyists (Altiero Spinelli and Coudenhove-Kalergi). Nowadays they don't refer to themselves as "Marxists", and prefer economic liberalism rather communism, but they are still the same anti-Europeans that they used to be, some even having openly communist past (like Federica Mogherini - EU's foreign office representative...). Even if Russia is ruled by former communists, their communists (stalinist and post-stalinist) are much lesser evil than the western ones.
    You're very naive then: they are both as evil as the other and both seek to snuff out the European way of life through revolutionary means. What you're dealing with is simply the old KGB and CPSU apparatchiks and nomenklatura becoming oligarchs. And, yes, Putin belongs to that crowd.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    If you mean the muslims living in their original homelands, then that's a good thing. If you mean the ones who move to bigger cities - then it is not, but they are still "Russians" in the civic meaning of this term, and actual Russians as opposed to "new Europeans".
    They are about as Russian as a Moroccan is Dutch: they may have the passport but they came from the Caucasus, Central Asia and beyond.


    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Agreed. That's still better than the western policies, which aren't in the least "conservative".
    I am afraid not. Those seem to be the only ones that seem to work because in Western Europe the abortion rate and (in Scandinavia and the Netherlands) HIV-rates are actually very low. The West is maligned but delivers, Russia is hyped but doesn't deliver:





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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    That's the official story now. I guess and even if: the Russian abortion rate is a multitude of the American rate (which is the single largest aborteur in the West).
    No, actually Russian aborion rate should be about the same as of Sweden today. You can compare the stats for Sweden and for Russia yourself.

    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/poli...ab-russia.html
    http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/poli...ab-sweden.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    You're very naive then: they are both as evil as the other and both seek to snuff out the European way of life through revolutionary means. What you're dealing with is simply the old KGB and CPSU apparatchiks and nomenklatura becoming oligarchs. And, yes, Putin belongs to that crowd.
    No, you should just acknowledge that the western crypto-trotskyists are much greater danger to Europe than Russian post-stalinists and stalinists. Post 1930s-40s USSR didn't try to replace Russians as a people and annihilate their culture and traditions, but the EU tries to do it with Europe.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    They are about as Russian as a Moroccan is Dutch: they may have the passport but they came from the Caucasus, Central Asia and beyond.
    Morocco has never been Dutch, nor does it have any special relation with the Netherlands. Central Asia used to be controled by Russia 28 years ago and it's still very dependent on it, it's states being members of the Commonwealth of Independent Nations.




    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I am afraid not. Those seem to be the only ones that seem to work because in Western Europe the abortion rate and (in Scandinavia and the Netherlands) HIV-rates are actually very low. The West is maligned but delivers, Russia is hyped but doesn't deliver:





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    Fully delegalized abortion and a death penalty for drug dealers would be the most succesful methodes, but as long as the liberal USA has still a much greater influence on the world than it should have, implementing these options is not realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    They are about as Russian as a Moroccan is Dutch: they may have the passport but they came from the Caucasus, Central Asia and beyond.

    You seem to be completly ignorant as far as Russian population goes, vast majority of russian muslims are Tatars and Bashkirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Yes. Communism has a lot of shades. The liberal-leaning, hyper-Jewish, and strictly anti-traditional faction of communists was gone after Stalin came to power and forced Lev Bronstein (aka Trotsky) to emmigrate. In meanwhile, this faction of marxists became influencial in the west especially since the 1960s. The EU itself was created by the trotskyists (Altiero Spinelli and Coudenhove-Kalergi). Nowadays they don't refer to themselves as "Marxists", and prefer economic liberalism rather communism, but they are still the same anti-Europeans that they used to be, some even having openly communist past (like Federica Mogherini - EU's foreign office representative...). Even if Russia is ruled by former communists, their communists (stalinist and post-stalinist) are much lesser evil than the western ones.
    This. I am glad that adequate people still exist on this site. I already sent you a couple of bottles of beer, check your email.
    The brains of our western "partners" have been so poisoned by the propaganda of their Judaized elites for several centuries that any constructive dialogue with them is already impossible.

    Hey, Lawspeaker, are you not yet tired of waiting for your Mashiach - Willem I? The smell of your masters comes straight from this stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I don't need to say anything. I just let those who made the videos do the talking. I will just sit back and enjoy the shit show. As for the Russophiles and Russians here: you can put the information in your pipe and smoke it. All the West needs to do is to block Russian propaganda media (increase cyber security), take the necessary measures to restore order in our own countries, divest in Russia (opt for different suppliers) and watch the country collapse as it can no longer subvert and expand.

    If we can block out the propaganda, Russia ceases to be a threat and becomes another one of those places whose existence can be ignored. Basically like 99 percent of Africa.
    The Lawspeaker again took the troll. Russia is weak, you convinced us. But Holland is a strong superpower. Enjoy it. And you tell all about Russia, calm down already, frightened gnome.

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