With my genetic results could I claim to be european in your opinion?

**Ayetooey** · 07-31-2019, 12:57 PM

Mixed race.

**Leto** · 07-31-2019, 01:12 PM

The Gypsies seem to be only around 1/3 South Indian or at least the G25 reference

"sample": "Roma:Average",
"fit": 0.9677,
"Greek": 55,
"Chamar": 30,
"Armenian": 15

**farke1** · 07-31-2019, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

A somewhat related topic
What do you feel is the minimum percentage for pride in heritage?

Personally, I think it's hard to assign a percentage to that. I don't agree with the hypothetical scenario posed in that thread (that for example, having 5% Celtic ancestry should invalidate or supersede the 95% Slavic in terms of importance), but I don't think there's anything weird about identifying with a culture if 5% of your DNA can be traced back to it - it's still a part of who you are. I think that stricter guidelines only really serve a purpose when talking about one's own ethnic identity - for example, I don't identify as partially French even though about 3-5% (depending on which test you want to look at) of my autosomal DNA comes from France; but I still respect the culture and I love the country and the people. I think the cutoff line for cultural identification is much more blurred than the one for ethnic identification, but many people here may disagree with that and that's fine. I think it's hard (and to some degree, pointless) to assign an absolute number to those scenarios anyway IMO.

**Voskos** · 07-31-2019, 02:47 PM

Indo-European I would say.

**gıulıoımpa** · 07-31-2019, 03:06 PM

having seen some other gypsy results , it seems you are more european than average for sure.

**Leto** · 07-31-2019, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by farke1

Personally, I think it's hard to assign a percentage to that. I don't agree with the hypothetical scenario posed in that thread (that for example, having 5% Celtic ancestry should invalidate or supersede the 95% Slavic in terms of importance), but I don't think there's anything weird about identifying with a culture if 5% of your DNA can be traced back to it - it's still a part of who you are. I think that stricter guidelines only really serve a purpose when talking about one's own ethnic identity - for example, I don't identify as partially French even though about 3-5% (depending on which test you want to look at) of my autosomal DNA comes from France; but I still respect the culture and I love the country and the people. I think the cutoff line for cultural identification is much more blurred than the one for ethnic identification, but many people here may disagree with that and that's fine. I think it's hard (and to some degree, pointless) to assign an absolute number to those scenarios anyway IMO.

It's indeed subjective, however I personally think anything less than a quarter (one grandparent) shouldn't really matter, 'cause we normally don't get to see our great-grandparents and even if we do, that happens at a very early age (0-5). Would you personally exclude someone who is 7/8 English and 1/8 Indian, Ethiopian or Chinese from the English nation? I'm Russian/Belarusian and to me personally 75% Russian would be enough to consider a person a full Russian for all intents and purposes. I believe even in NS Germany they didn't care if someone was 1/8 non-German genealogically.