Anatolian Hunter-Gatherer GEDmatch

[Gaditanian]

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Nevermind, I am on the phone and messed up the kit numbers and compared segments between my gf kit and mine, lol. We both don't share any segments with the Anatolian sample.

Then your gf & you are related 7 generations ago with a common ancestor?

[Calpurnius]

He is most likely E-Z827 or a downstream subclade like the rest of Levantines.(Natufian subclade) This is why I don’t believe E-V13 came from Mesolithic Levant or Levant in general because it would have to be downstream descendant of E-Z827 and not directly from M-78. If that makes sense.

The two calls for E1b1b1a, keeping in mind the quality of the sample is poor, do point to the possibility of M78 in the Levant though. Keep in mind that the few Iberomaurusian samples available and early Natufian ones are almost from the same period, around 13kBC, the Iberomaurusian-like population that mixed into the Levant may have had both M78 and Z827, perhaps lived somewhere between Morocco and the Levant in the paleolithic.

[Daos777]

The two calls for E1b1b1a, keeping in mind the quality of the sample is poor, do point to the possibility of M78 in the Levant though. Keep in mind that the few Iberomaurusian samples available and early Natufian ones are almost from the same period, around 13kBC, the Iberomaurusian-like population that mixed into the Levant may have had both M78 and Z827, perhaps lived somewhere between Morocco and the Levant in the paleolithic.

Yeah they may have but so far no proof of it.

“According to ancient DNA analyses conducted by Lazaridis et al. (2016) on Natufian skeletal remains from present-day northern Israel, the Natufians carried the Y-DNA (paternal) haplogroups E1b1b1b2(xE1b1b1b2a,E1b1b1b2b) (2/5; 40%), CT (2/5; 40%), and E1b1(xE1b1a1,E1b1b1b1) (1/5; 20%).”

Personally I’m going to lean towards the directly out of North Africa theory until a legit M-78 parent clade to European E-V13 is found in the Levant.




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[InfamousAngel99]

I have two small matching segments, but they’re so small they probably don’t mean much.

Very interesting nonetheless!

[Imperator Biff]

Interesting that Levant_PPNB is so far from Levant Canaanite MBA, Lebanese Christian etc. Why is that? I was looking at Natufian gedmatch results and it seems like they had Sardinian admixture? And no west asian

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....-of-a-Natufian

(((BA Levantines))) derived most of their ancestry from Halaf-Ubaid people from Mesopotamia.
Similar to those hajji firuz Chl samples. A two way admixture of ANF/Iran_N. They then assimilated the natufian heavy PPNC levantines and replaced their E1b lines with typical Semitic haplogroups like J1/J2 etc

[Arch Hades]

This is bascically a prehistoric version of the migrant crisis.

Let's hope not. These guys conquered 2/3rds of Europe and their genes in today's Europeans ranges from 25-85%. I hope the European in 500 years will not be 25-85% Sub-SaharanNegroNorthAfrican mongrel.

Not to mention, they are much more genetically similar to modern Europeans than modern Pakistani/Arabian/North African, much less Sub-Saharan populations are today. Lastly these people were technologically superior to the natives of Europe at the time while it's the vice versa with the current migrants.

[happycow]

(((BA Levantines))) derived most of their ancestry from Halaf-Ubaid people from Mesopotamia.
Similar to those hajji firuz Chl samples. A two way admixture of ANF/Iran_N. They then assimilated the natufian heavy PPNC levantines and replaced their E1b lines with typical Semitic haplogroups like J1/J2 etc

I see. Interesting, thank you.

[Annihilus]

Which proves that modern day Turds have nothing to do much with the ancient peoples of Anatolia.

Largest segment = 4.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 156.8 cM (4.376 Pct)

114 shared segments found for this comparison.

373819 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.877 Pct SNPs are full identical

idiot

[Daos777]

This looks quite far fetched to be honest. E-V13 likely entered through Anatolia, and an Indo-European dispersal is also proposed because E-V13 is found in almost every place Indo-Europeans settled:

The eastern advance of the Corded Ware culture eventually gave rise to the Sintashta culture in the Ural region, which is the ancestral culture of the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans. E-V13's presence in this culture would explain why modern Iranians and Kurds possess E-V13, in addition to R1a-Z93 and R1b-Z2103. E-V13 has been found as far away as central Siberia, near the Altai, a region also known to have been settled by Bronze Age Indo-Europeans.

But also:

An Indo-European dispersal of V13 subclades would not only explain why E-V13 is present in places like Finland, northwest Russia or Siberia, where Neolithic farmers had a negligible impact... (from Eupedia).

No legitimate E-M78 samples were ever found in Anatolia or Levant.